Cultureculturedeepstate

Wed Nov 27, 2019, 09:57 AM

mineral man explains the "deep state"

i agree with him to a great extent

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212734048

"Deep State My Red Ass, Donald!
It is not the "Deep State," you moron. It is the permanent state, the stable state, the Constitutional state. It is the constant state that is the fundamental structure of our government.

You, however, are the "Shallow State." You are the temporary state, the aberrant state, the noxious state. You will soon be gone, while the basic structure of our government persists in your absence. You are an evanescent figure, a mortal individual, and will soon be forgotten as anything but a faulty judgement made by our population in 2016.

While you might vaunt yourself as a special sort of President, in truth you are, and will be, nothing more than an asterisk in history. We will remember you, but not favorably. You have failed in living up to the responsibility bestowed on you. Failed miserably.

You should be ashamed of yourself. "

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Response to rampartb (Original post)

Wed Nov 27, 2019, 10:05 AM

1. So you think unelected career bureaucrats should run the country?

And subvert a duly elected president?

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Response to foia (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 27, 2019, 10:23 AM

3. not "run" and not "subvert"

in fact, the career civil service should have very little interaction with the president. that is what the political appointees are for.

trump's inability to manage the career employees may stem from his inability to appoint a competent cabinet.



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Response to rampartb (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 27, 2019, 04:06 PM

12. It's the JOB of executive branch federal government employees to follow the president's orders

and strategy whether they like it or not. If they don't want to then they should quit and find another job, not attempt to undermine the president.

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Response to foia (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 27, 2019, 05:32 PM

13. it is the job of the executive departments, and the president

to use the chain of command, and standard operating procedures.

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Response to rampartb (Reply #13)

Wed Nov 27, 2019, 10:15 PM

14. In case you haven't noticed, paws

the President sits at the top of that "chain of command".

"standard operating procedures", with the exception of constitutional law, are set by that one man who WE elected to lead us.

If you don't like it, you should find someplace else to pitch your tent.

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Response to rampartb (Reply #13)

Thu Nov 28, 2019, 02:21 AM

15. Citation please

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Response to rampartb (Original post)

Wed Nov 27, 2019, 10:11 AM

2. Vindman is a perfect example

Appealed, that Trump wouldn't follow the inter-agency policy. Yovanovitch same thing when asked if the president sets foreign policy she said yes but using the inter-agency process.

Call em whatever you like, patriotic resisters is fine. But I for one find it deeply unAmerican that these unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats refuse to recognize the authority of the duly elected president.

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Response to def_con5 (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 27, 2019, 11:00 AM

6. Even duly elected presidents don't have

the authority to commit crimes.

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Response to orson (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 27, 2019, 11:13 AM

7. well since Trump didn't commit any then he's okay

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Response to orson (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 27, 2019, 11:43 AM

8. Neither do democrat candidates.

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Response to orson (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 27, 2019, 12:13 PM

10. What crime did Trump commit? Please provide evidence to back up your accusation.

Without evidence there is no crime, just important squealing and crying.

Lefty will believe any accusation against Trump no matter how many times they have been proven wrong

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Response to rampartb (Original post)

Wed Nov 27, 2019, 11:00 AM

5. Democrats don't believe in democracy

They should seriously consider changing their party's name to the Bureaucracy party.

"Vote for us to get that good government job."




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Response to Bob the Bilderberger (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 27, 2019, 12:17 PM

11. I was just listening to one Democrat on TV who was saying she wants to follow the Constitution...

so she supports impeaching Trump.

But a couple of years ago the Democrats were complaining about how outdated the Constitution is and how it should be replaced.

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Response to rampartb (Original post)

Wed Nov 27, 2019, 11:46 AM

9. He's an idiot.

At best, his argument is a reason to annihilate 90% of the federal bureaucracy.

If the deep state wants to subvert duly elected presidents the deep state can rot in prison or hang from lampposts.

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Response to rampartb (Original post)

Thu Nov 28, 2019, 10:57 AM

16. Sorry, there should be no permanent ruling class

All government employees job contracts should end when the White House changes hands. They should all have to reapply at that time.

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Response to rampartb (Original post)

Thu Nov 28, 2019, 02:46 PM

17. MM is an idiot that thinks any shit he posts is profound.

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