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Sun Sep 14, 2014, 08:37 PM

Sold at 9

Carrie Bailee had escaped a paedophile/pornography ring run by her father in Canada. She described her remarkable experience here. At the time I wrote: “Her story is remarkable. Her suffering indescribable. Her resilience and love for life unmatchable”. . .

Now that story has become a book. Carrie’s autobiography ‘Flying on Broken Wings: A Journey of Unimaginable Betrayal, Resilience and Hope’ will be published by Affirm Press next month.
http://melindatankardreist.com/2014/09/sold-at-9-carrie-bailees-book-and-spoken-word-poem-on-being-sold-by-her-father-as-a-child/



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Reply Sold at 9 (Original post)
Iansa Sep 2014 OP
Iansa Sep 2014 #1
fools_gold Sep 2014 #2
Feldspar Green Sep 2014 #3
fools_gold Sep 2014 #5
Feldspar Green Sep 2014 #6
fools_gold Sep 2014 #7
Iansa Sep 2014 #9
fools_gold Sep 2014 #13
Iansa Sep 2014 #14
Feldspar Green Sep 2014 #10
fools_gold Sep 2014 #11
Feldspar Green Sep 2014 #12
fools_gold Sep 2014 #15
Feldspar Green Sep 2014 #16
Shredded Hedly Sep 2014 #17
Iansa Sep 2014 #8
Iansa Sep 2014 #4

Response to Iansa (Original post)

Mon Sep 15, 2014, 05:15 PM

1. This is a powerful poem

well worth listening to.

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Response to Iansa (Original post)

Mon Sep 15, 2014, 06:20 PM

2. What are you looking for?

Discussion?

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Response to fools_gold (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 15, 2014, 06:23 PM

3. What are you looking for?

Do you have some commentary on the video?

Does any of it strike you as meaningful?

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Response to Feldspar Green (Reply #3)

Mon Sep 15, 2014, 08:04 PM

5. I'm looking for what the OP is looking for

I guess it was posted to get some comment, or discussion, or sympathy, or something. But after a whole day it has gotten zilch. It would probably have 100 responses over on the other site.

I wonder what that tells us?

Do I have any commentary on the video? No, just commentary on the site's reaction, or lack thereof.

Does it strike me as meaningful? No, I cannot relate.

But I find the lack of response to this OP interesting.

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Response to fools_gold (Reply #5)

Mon Sep 15, 2014, 08:10 PM

6. So here comes the discussion part:

You say you can not relate to this video.

Is it solely because you or someone you know was not sold as a child to adults for their sex/power 'needs'?

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Response to Feldspar Green (Reply #6)

Mon Sep 15, 2014, 08:23 PM

7. Not solely

Is it solely because you or someone you know was not sold as a child to adults for their sex/power 'needs'?

No one I know was sold as a child to anyone.

I am told thousands of children around the world are sold to adults for various reasons. People are beheaded for their religious beliefs. Women have their genitals mutilated. Women are stoned to death for adultery or being raped. Thieves have their hands cut off. 150,000 people die every single day around the world. Millions of bad things happen to people every day.

I don't relate to any of those things. Why would I? How could I? It would be very depressing.

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Response to fools_gold (Reply #7)

Mon Sep 15, 2014, 08:27 PM

9. not tens of thousands

Millions. An estimated 26 million people are currently enslaved, more than at any time in human history. The numbers of enslaved children are most certainly in the millions.

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Response to Iansa (Reply #9)

Mon Sep 15, 2014, 09:21 PM

13. Millions, then

"... more than anytime in human history."

Probably because there are many more people than anytime in human history.

I read history. I have traveled over the world. Human slavery is pretty much a constant throughout human history. We modern era western folks like to think we have progressed beyond that. I think people are deluding themselves. A large number of people in the rest of the world are not so civilized. I've been to some of those places. It is not the same as here.

Seriously, what do you think of the lack of response on this OP here on this site? Is it because it is composed of uncaring conservatives? There were a few compassionate libs around the last I looked. Where are they? Why, after more than 24 hours, are there just the three of us? No one else cares? I am really surprised myself.

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Response to fools_gold (Reply #13)

Mon Sep 15, 2014, 09:29 PM

14. As I said, I think much of it is the time commitment to watch the video

Secondly it doesn't have the kind of title people viscerally react to. Many responders to my other thread never read the article but responded only to the title. Since it was the title the author used, I used the same one.

As yes, I do think it's possible that this site may draw more than the average number of people lacking in compassion, as you yourself described it. This isn't a conservative-liberal issue. There are some conservatives actively involved in the anti-slavery movement.

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Response to fools_gold (Reply #7)

Mon Sep 15, 2014, 09:00 PM

10. Did you take the time to listen to it??

I'm serious here because I think that if you had you might find something to relate to within it.

Having and showing respect for girls/women, for example?

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Response to Feldspar Green (Reply #10)

Mon Sep 15, 2014, 09:11 PM

11. I got about 5 minutes into it

and lost interest. I really tried, but it wasn't connecting. Maybe it would have been better if I could have read it. I do much better absorbing things visually (reading) than orally.

But, people that know me here know that I am lacking in empathy and compassion, so there is really no big surprise.

What really surprises me is that NO ONE else on the forum other than we three are engaging on this. Maybe I am not the only one lacking compassion.

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Response to fools_gold (Reply #11)

Mon Sep 15, 2014, 09:21 PM

12. Your response is genuinely interesting to me.

I find that my reading and auditory 'skills' are roughly equal, yet it would be nice to have the copy of her monologue...

Also, it would seem that you are "lacking in compassion" but how can anyone really know that if we don't see other aspects of your personality?

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Response to Feldspar Green (Reply #12)

Mon Sep 15, 2014, 09:36 PM

15. I realized many decades ago

that I absorb much better from the printed word and schematic diagrams than I do to oral methods. College lectures were a waste of time for me. I could not concentrate on more than a sentence unless it was something that "wasn't in the book" that I had generally already read. After a BSEE and two MBAs and the Army War College and a few other schools I had that pretty well figured out. Now it's even worse that my hearing is going in my old age. But I still read a lot, several books a week, even though this forum is taking up way to much of my time.

I have been described many times here and on DU (where I was recently PPRed) as a psychopath or sociopath for my lack of empathy. It's a self acknowledged flaw. I do care about some people, but no where near the level of most of the people on political forums. Even the conservatives here probably would consider me a sociopath. I just see the world as a tough place, and I am not going to be able to fix it. I would get depressed if I tried and failed. So I don't.

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Response to fools_gold (Reply #15)

Mon Sep 15, 2014, 10:03 PM

16. Thank you for your honesty. That's something I can always

get behind.

And I feel very much the same way:
I just see the world as a tough place, and I am not going to be able to fix it.

It's a very sad truth that no one of us can fix the 'whole problem' and it's damn difficult (if not impossible) to find enough people to come together enough to fix even small parts of it.

Cynicism - it's not necessarily a bad thing.

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Response to fools_gold (Reply #5)

Mon Sep 15, 2014, 08:25 PM

8. My guess

Is a large part of it is the time commitment required to listen to the poem. Some may relate to the worldview of members of this particular site.

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Response to fools_gold (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 15, 2014, 06:39 PM

4. Did you listen to the poem?

What did you think?

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