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Tue Apr 28, 2015, 01:14 PM

A question on destruction.





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Bakunin

Is this ever a valid statement? At what point should the line be crossed?

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Reply A question on destruction. (Original post)
smokingman Apr 2015 OP
nolens volens Apr 2015 #1
Attila Gorilla Apr 2015 #2
Satan Apr 2015 #3
Carlos W Bush Apr 2015 #4
Satan Apr 2015 #5
Gamle-ged Apr 2015 #6
_eek Apr 2015 #7

Response to smokingman (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 01:36 PM

1. I heard that first quote

attributed to Picasso actually....I always took it to mean that in order to create new, compelling art one must destroy some of what constituted art prior to that moment to make room for a new idea, a new concept or a new beginning...

Some other quotes I've always remembered about the destruction of things, or the destruction of self.

“What win I, if I gain the thing I seek?
A dream, a breath, a froth of fleeting joy.
Who buys a minute's mirth to wail a week?
Or sells eternity to get a toy?
For one sweet grape who will the vine destroy?
Or what fond beggar, but to touch the crown,
Would with the sceptre straight be strucken down?”

"I am the spirit that negates.
And rightly so, for all that comes to be
Deserves to perish wretchedly;
'Twere better nothing would begin.
Thus everything that your terms, sin,
Destruction, evil represent -
That is my proper element."

“What this country needs... what this great land of ours needs is something to happen to it. Something ferocious and tragic, like what happened to Jericho or the cities of the plain - something terrible I mean, son, so that when the people have been through hellfire and the crucible, and have suffered agony enough and grief, they’ll be people again, human beings, not a bunch of smug contented cows rooting at the trough.”

Baltimore is both I think, destruction of things to be sure but also a destruction of self a violent exclamation that what has existed to this moment hasn't been good enough. That current concept that nothing would ever happen to resolve the issues with the PD has to be destroyed to make the point that it's far too long for a sea change to come along and correct those shifting sands.

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Response to smokingman (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 01:39 PM

2. At this point.

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Response to smokingman (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 01:43 PM

3. And somewhat related

"Anger is an energy" - John Lydon, 1986

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Response to Satan (Reply #3)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 01:46 PM

4. Steve Vai on guitar by the way.

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Response to Carlos W Bush (Reply #4)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 01:52 PM

5. and Ginger Baker on the drums

easily the best PiL lineup, though sadly it only existed in the studio for that one album. Never played a single gig together.

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Response to smokingman (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 01:57 PM

6. Nothing on or of the Earth (save H) could exist without destruction of supernovae...

Supernova nucleosynthesis is a theory of the production of many different chemical elements in supernova explosions, first advanced by Fred Hoyle in 1954. 
The nucleosynthesis, or fusion of lighter elements into heavier ones, occurs during explosive oxygen burning and silicon burning.

Those fusion reactions create the elements silicon, sulfur, chlorine, argon,sodium, potassium, calcium, scandium, titanium 
and iron peak elements: vanadium, chromium, manganese, iron, cobalt, and nickel.

These are called "primary elements", in that they can be fused from pure hydrogen and helium in massive stars. As a result of their ejection from supernovae, their abundances increase within the interstellar medium.

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Response to smokingman (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 02:10 PM

7. Hindu recognize it in the many manifestations of Mahakali

And many other religions and theologies express creation as destruction, and the opposite, destruction as creation..

It is pretty much an ancient and common theme.

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