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Mon Dec 10, 2018, 08:14 AM

Pictures tell the story, fans are not going to football games.

https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2018/12/09/weak-14-empty-seats-outnumber-fans-many-nfl-stadiums/

I don’t care if the link is from brietbart, the picture evidence is overwhelming, people are not going to NFL games. You can even see this during the tv games.

I believe this has even transcended the Kaepernick bullshit. People are just not going to NFL games.

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Reply Pictures tell the story, fans are not going to football games. (Original post)
Butchie_T Dec 10 OP
imwithfred Dec 10 #1
Butchie_T Dec 10 #3
Daves Not Here Man Dec 10 #12
Daves Not Here Man Dec 10 #13
Nostrings Dec 10 #2
Butchie_T Dec 10 #4
Daves Not Here Man Dec 10 #17
Nostrings Dec 10 #18
nolens volens Dec 10 #5
Butchie_T Dec 10 #8
Daves Not Here Man Dec 10 #11
nolens volens Dec 10 #16
oflguy Dec 14 #23
Ruby Dec 10 #6
Daves Not Here Man Dec 10 #10
Ruby Dec 10 #15
Crazy in SoFla Dec 10 #7
Carlos_Danger Dec 10 #14
Daves Not Here Man Dec 10 #9
Squeek Dec 10 #19
TheShoe Dec 10 #20
Squeek Dec 10 #22
TheyLostTheirForums Dec 10 #21

Response to Butchie_T (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2018, 08:17 AM

1. Well now, some weeks ago, maybe five or six weeks ago,

a member here prominent in the snobbish elitist lorgnette-and-pearls crowd that looks down upon us common people, assured us that the NFL and professional football was doing fine, more popular than ever.

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Response to imwithfred (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 10, 2018, 08:21 AM

3. Proof tells a different story

Not so much. The NFL is bleeding fans, this cannot be whitewashed from the snobbery of those that never watch the games but claim to.

Not to mention tickets are out of reach for the common man. You cannot go to a game without dropping over $300.00 just to plop a butt and a companions butt into a seat and watch the game. And that does not cover any food or beverage while attending the game.

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Response to Butchie_T (Reply #3)

Mon Dec 10, 2018, 08:48 AM

12. buffalo tickets are far less and stadium is packed.

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Response to imwithfred (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 10, 2018, 08:49 AM

13. some rectal aperture a few weeks ago assured us the nfl was dead.

same fake news website, too.


oh my.


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Response to Butchie_T (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2018, 08:21 AM

2. Some of us are not particularly forgiving...

When it comes to the NFL caving to the lunatic SJW crowd.

They had a chance to get it right the first time and instead they chose stupid.

Fuck em.

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Response to Nostrings (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 10, 2018, 08:22 AM

4. Agreed, they did this to themselves

And it is coming home to roost on them.

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Response to Nostrings (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 10, 2018, 10:51 AM

17. muh...muh...muuuuuuuuhhhhhhh BOYCOTT!

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Response to Daves Not Here Man (Reply #17)

Mon Dec 10, 2018, 11:31 AM

18. Muh..muh...dictionary.

Boycott implies there's some chance of me ever going back.

There isn't.

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Response to Butchie_T (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2018, 08:26 AM

5. It's been a trend

for several years, I think the Kaepernick kerfluffle expedited the exodus of some fans but fans were already leaving which is why the NFL is trying to showcase games in Mexico City and London...they need to expand their market base.

Another little reality about football, youth participation numbers are off. Considerably in some locations. That will have an impact as well as parents are concerned about exposing their kids to concussions over and over throughout their childhood. The less kids playing, the less kids are likely to pick it up later. The game will continue to decline, because if you don't play as a child you care less about it as an adult.

Media consumers have many choices today and it's evident they are choosing sports at a declining rate.

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Response to nolens volens (Reply #5)

Mon Dec 10, 2018, 08:42 AM

8. This is trandscending to other sports areas as well

Ever watch NASCAR?

5 years ago the events were packed, now they are closing huge sections of of seats for the same reason, people are not going to these events in droves.

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Response to nolens volens (Reply #5)

Mon Dec 10, 2018, 08:47 AM

11. that is a feel good narrative for people who do not like sports.

but nowhere near the actual truth.

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Response to Daves Not Here Man (Reply #11)

Mon Dec 10, 2018, 09:06 AM

16. Forbes magazine

opinion writers sort of agree, they note that while viewership is down the money is up as networks compete to get something that people watch live.

The real issue isn't just the NFL it's TV in general and what the networks call linear viewing which is those folks watching something as it airs instead of at a later time DVR'ed or OnDemand.

The Oscars have a declining viewership as do many special events that used to crush the competition. The article linked below covers some of the basic components very well I think.

It's a trend I've noticed right in my own house. We have more TV screens than ever with a flat screen in every bedroom, in the basement workout area, the living room kitchen etc...and most of them are streaming or gaming and not watching live TV. My kids and grandkids aren't typically watching whatever is on network TV anymore, they have the ability to choose the media they'd like to consume and that's how they use the TV screens these days. I'm a baby boomer and I notice that I don't often have the TV on and when I do I'm not watching live TV or network TV. I like sports and I'll watch live sometimes, but a lot of times I DVR so I can watch commercial free at a later time and just blast through the game instead of wasting three or four hours sitting on my ass in the living room that I could use for more productive things.

I think the trend is people consume media differently today than even just 5-10 years ago because they have these choices.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonathanberr/2018/08/28/the-nfls-ratings-probably-will-continue-to-decline/#2f0d72d6666d

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Response to Daves Not Here Man (Reply #11)

Fri Dec 14, 2018, 09:11 AM

23. Nice try Dave

I played sports throughout high school and college and was a big Saints fan.

The NFL is not going away, I just wish it would.

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Response to Butchie_T (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2018, 08:30 AM

6. People have big TVs and tickets are stupid expensive.

This was bound to happen.

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Response to Ruby (Reply #6)

Mon Dec 10, 2018, 08:45 AM

10. but it is not, yo.

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Response to Daves Not Here Man (Reply #10)

Mon Dec 10, 2018, 09:05 AM

15. Huh.

Shows what I know.

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Response to Butchie_T (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2018, 08:34 AM

7. I go every Sunday...

Got season tix for the Dolphins. The stadium sells out every week. The tickets were very affordable; saved $400 in parking alone.
People are going to the games. The networks can't broadcast a game unless the stadium sells out.
I don't give a shit what a players' political leanings are. I don't care if they kneel. Their statements and pregame antics have no influence on me. And they aren't disrupting the game.

LET'S PLAY BALL!

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Response to Crazy in SoFla (Reply #7)

Mon Dec 10, 2018, 08:53 AM

14. Only true for local games I believe

But I could be mistaken about that. At any rate, I hope the new leagues debuting in the next couple years are actually viable business models that provide real competition (for the NFL) and force the NFL to get better instead of assuming they can do what they wish and fans will continue to show up regardless.

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Response to Butchie_T (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2018, 11:34 AM

19. The only game I've noticed so far

where there were lots of empty seats was the Miami/NE game yesterday afternoon.

The rest of them, no. Seats appear to be filled, even at games played in NE during the "hell just froze over" months of winter.

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Response to Squeek (Reply #19)

Mon Dec 10, 2018, 12:22 PM

20. Dolphins game was a sell out.

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Response to TheShoe (Reply #20)

Mon Dec 10, 2018, 10:48 PM

22. If that's the case...

I can't imagine what could have happened, especially given the wild ending.

Maybe Dolphin fans left early thinking they were going to lose


Anyway, I'm watching Vikings vs Seahawks right now. That stadium looks pretty full too.

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Response to Butchie_T (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2018, 06:52 PM

21. Thats good news!

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