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Fri Dec 28, 2018, 06:13 AM

It's time to ban the likes of "Second and Goal!" Is it one yard or 20 yards? Do we say

'Second and first' for a regular 1st down? Of course not. It doesn't tell the true story. And if you say we can say: "Second and goal on the __" thats a wasted effort, surely NOT a shortcut.

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Reply It's time to ban the likes of "Second and Goal!" Is it one yard or 20 yards? Do we say (Original post)
Dumper Dec 2018 OP
freedumb2003 Dec 2018 #1
Dumper Jan 2019 #2
freedumb2003 Jan 2019 #3
FreeWheelBurning Jan 2019 #4

Response to Dumper (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 09:14 AM

1. it is almost always follwed by "from the x" (yard line)

 

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2nd and 3 traditionally means to the next first down. the distance is not nearly as important as the number of opportunities left, barring penalties.

The distance is more important to tge play selection.

Too bad coaches have lost their way inside the 5. There should be only one play: off tackle run. My horses vs yours. Real football. Not this sissy play action ballerina crap.

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Response to freedumb2003 (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 07:28 PM

2. I wish that were true, but it isn't. As a viewer, I'm not into play selection. I want info.

I like to watch in zoom mode, and you often are in the dark as to where the ball is. Only penalties? There are frequent penalties, but you don't know with the current shorthand.

Yards not relevant? Huh? Why then report the yards to go?

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Response to Dumper (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 07:46 PM

3. all of them are important data for the watcher to know

 

But in Football it is assume "to go" means to the 1st. The "goal to go from the x" provides all the relevant information.

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Response to Dumper (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 3, 2019, 03:29 PM

4. How can you watch a game and not know the down and distance without being told

You just watched the previous play. You knew the down before the play started and you know where he was tackled.

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