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Wed May 21, 2014, 11:19 PM

I have a baseball question

Last edited Thu May 22, 2014, 10:33 AM - Edit history (1)

WTF is this? This was on a Mariners chat site. I wanted to read something about todays game. I'm baffled.


Not the hotdog, fool, the chart.

It did find a long, intense discussion of M's uniform colors. The cream seemed to be favored. Ecru might be nice but it was not discussed. I think baseball has passed me by. The other day I was looking for an errors stat and couldn't find one. Is the term "error" too hurtful for the modern ball player? And all those new stats: SABRmetrics run amok. Some things never change though. One day last week the "M"s shortstop snatched up a ground ball and launched it toward the 1st base boxes just like Roy Smalley used to do back in the day.


Austin is basically Portland, if Portland were surrounded by Iran

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calliope_muse May 2014 #4
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Response to orson (Original post)

Wed May 21, 2014, 11:39 PM

1. For all of its other problems

MLB.com has most of the stats any SABRmetrician could want. Here's this year's errors leaders

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Response to ShotMonkey (Reply #1)

Thu May 22, 2014, 10:31 AM

2. Thanks

I've been ignoring the game for a while; the Mariners have been too dismal to think about. They're competitive again this year after a decade of futility. Despite my bitching, the game hasn't changed, but like everything else now days, it seems vastly over produced. And I still don't get what the chart's about.

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Response to orson (Original post)

Thu May 22, 2014, 10:46 AM

3. Ah man!

And here I was clicking on this thread hoping to explain the infield fly rule.

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Response to BBB (Reply #3)

Thu May 22, 2014, 03:56 PM

5. Not an unreasonable expectation

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Response to BBB (Reply #3)

Fri May 23, 2014, 12:51 AM

7. Rule 2.00 "Infield Fly Rule"



An INFIELD FLY is a fair fly ball (not including a line drive nor an attempted bunt) which can be caught by an infielder with ordinary effort, when first and second, or first, second and third bases are occupied, before two are out. The pitcher, catcher and any outfielder who stations himself in the infield on the play shall be considered infielders for the purpose of this rule.

When it seems apparent that a batted ball will be an Infield Fly, the umpire shall immediately declare "Infield Fly" for the benefit of the runners. If the ball is near the baselines, the umpire shall declare "Infield Fly, if Fair." The ball is alive and runners may advance at the risk of the ball being caught, or retouch and advance after the ball is touched, the same as on any fly ball. If the hit becomes a foul ball, it is treated the same as any foul. If a declared Infield Fly is allowed to fall untouched to the ground, and bounces foul before passing first or third base, it is a foul ball. If a declared Infield Fly falls untouched to the ground outside the baseline, and bounces fair before passing first or third base, it is an Infield Fly.

Rule 2.00 (Infield Fly) Comment: On the infield fly rule the umpire is to rule whether the ball could ordinarily have been handled by an infielder-not by some arbitrary limitation such as the grass, or the base lines. The umpire must rule also that a ball is an infield fly, even if handled by an outfielder, if, in the umpire's judgment, the ball could have been as easily handled by an infielder. The infield fly is in no sense to be considered an appeal play. The umpire's judgment must govern, and the decision should be made immediately.

When an infield fly rule is called, runners may advance at their own risk. If on an infield fly rule, the infielder intentionally drops a fair ball, the ball remains in play despite the provisions of Rule 6.05(l). The infield fly rule takes precedence.

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Response to orson (Original post)

Thu May 22, 2014, 02:52 PM

4. It's called a 'Win Expectancy Chart'...

here's a description of it: http://www.fangraphs.com/library/misc/we/

It seems to chart who is expected to win the game as it winds through the innings.

I found it by doing an image search, which led to a site that named but did not explain it, and then searched for the name.

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Response to calliope_muse (Reply #4)

Thu May 22, 2014, 03:58 PM

6. Ah

Good to know. Thank you for the effort

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