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Thu Dec 10, 2015, 10:03 AM

Warm enough for you?


Ski areas are getting nervous in the Northeast, a confused southern bird has been spotted in New York City, and Buffalo has yet to see snow, something that hasn't happened there in December since records began shortly after the Civil War.

Record-breaking warmth is possible this weekend for much of the central and eastern U.S., with temperatures forecast to soar as much as 20 to 30 degrees above average from Texas to New England, according to AccuWeather.

This has nothing to do with Anthropogenic Global Warming, so stop saying that. Don't even think it.

http://www.king5.com/story/weather/2015/12/09/el-nino-polar-vortex-weather/77030892/

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Reply Warm enough for you? (Original post)
orson Dec 2015 OP
Jack Burton Dec 2015 #1
rahtruelies Dec 2015 #2
akaConcernedCanuk Dec 2015 #3
EGTrise Dec 2015 #4
leftymcghee Dec 2015 #5
orson Dec 2015 #9
wisbadger Dec 2015 #6
Jack Burton Dec 2015 #7
misanthroptimist Dec 2015 #8
Mr Happy Dec 2015 #10
ProudNYSTaxPayer Dec 2015 #11
maximumbrainusage Dec 2015 #12
ProudNYSTaxPayer Dec 2015 #13
Jack Burton Dec 2015 #14

Response to orson (Original post)

Thu Dec 10, 2015, 10:32 AM

1. Excellent.

Think just how much money the City of Buffalo will save on snow removal cost. Those funds can be diverted to help the needy. See good things happen to those who wait.

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Response to orson (Original post)

Thu Dec 10, 2015, 10:34 AM

2. sooooooo, have YOU reduced your carbon footprint to zero?

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Response to orson (Original post)

Thu Dec 10, 2015, 10:58 AM

3. yup - warmer than last winter for sure

all the snow from around the 23rd of November is gone - +5C here, and still green grass - rain forecast for the next few days - light flurries.



and it sorta looks like it is gonna be milder than normal all winter up here





Images from http://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/articles/winter-2016-how-our-forecast-compares-with-the-rest/60322/

More images and info at link - one image shows that CA will get higher than normal precipitation - heard they sorta need it down there.

CC

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Response to orson (Original post)

Thu Dec 10, 2015, 11:29 AM

4. A monster el Nino will do that.

2016 is very likely to be another record shattering warm year, just like 2015.

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Response to orson (Original post)

Thu Dec 10, 2015, 12:46 PM

5. Actualy - in the case of New England -

this had nothing to do with Global Warming.

The science behind our (so far) mild winter is that I finally broke down and bought a snow-blower after last year's triple load of winter in 6 weeks winter.

And if we have a mild winter this year - I'll buy another snow-blower next year.

My plan is at least as scientific as the science behind AGW deniers.

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Response to leftymcghee (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 10, 2015, 04:36 PM

9. I have a similar influence

on the stock market. Use your power wisely.

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Response to orson (Original post)

Thu Dec 10, 2015, 01:55 PM

6. So far we have had a mild fall, only one significant snow. Beats the heck out of the

last two winters that were well below average in temps.

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Response to orson (Original post)

Thu Dec 10, 2015, 03:00 PM

7. So last year 2014-2015 winter was colder and snowier than average in Buffalo NY.

And so far this year 2015-2016 looks to be warmer and less snowy than average in Buffalo NY. What's the big deal. Do you have any concept of how an average is calculated?

However, I do remember doomers chiding people for citing cold/snowy winter in the northeast as merely "weather" and in no way an indicator of global climate. Funny, how "weather" this year is somehow an indicator of global climate.

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Response to orson (Original post)

Thu Dec 10, 2015, 03:16 PM

8. Yes, I'm sure it's just some weird coincidence.

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Response to orson (Original post)

Fri Dec 11, 2015, 01:36 PM

10. Western skiing is better than the East anytime and we have plenty of snow right now...

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Response to orson (Original post)

Fri Dec 11, 2015, 04:27 PM

11. Single year weather has nothing to do with global warming/climate change

Not record highs or record lows.

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Response to ProudNYSTaxPayer (Reply #11)

Fri Dec 11, 2015, 06:48 PM

12. Not quite correct

It's like saying a bad cough has nothing to do with decades of heavy smoking.

Of course, one can't prove a particular day of coughing has anything to do with the smoking (note carefully the word prove)

But science deals with probabilities. And the case against climate change is getting markedly thinner by the year.

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Response to maximumbrainusage (Reply #12)

Tue Dec 15, 2015, 11:48 AM

13. I think you are new here

so you probably don't know me as I don't know you, but I am the furthest thing from a denier. I adamantly believe that climate change is a man made problem that needs to be solved. I could have been more clear in my response, so here goes.

Global Climate Change deals with much more Macro issues than individual weather patterns and, while it does affect them, attempting to proscribe an individual weather pattern as proof of GCC is like using Microeconomics to prove a Macroeconomic problem, it is two different sets of data.

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Response to orson (Original post)

Tue Dec 15, 2015, 11:55 AM

14. Nope. Not yet.

14 degrees F this morning and 3" of fresh global warming on the ground.

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