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Sun Mar 5, 2017, 08:50 AM

We are at the point were we can achieve interstellar space travel with probes.

50-65 Yeas to Alpha Centaur Systems.......Let's say $7-10 Billion.

Would this be something you support. Can you image the technology ans phenomena that would need to be studied, understood, and developed required and the total benefit to mankind that could come of this in your children's lifetime.

Could this be an event that could break down political walls and bring m,mankind together for a purpose?

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Response to ibtruthin (Original post)

Sun Mar 5, 2017, 08:55 AM

1. Anything touted to 'break down political walls and bring mankind together for a purpose'

is 100% worthless BS.

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Response to rahtruelies (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 5, 2017, 09:00 AM

4. i agree to a point

what if an extraterrestrial probe entered low earth orbit? would it be possible to work together on a rational response?

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Response to ibtruthin (Original post)

Sun Mar 5, 2017, 08:57 AM

2. the probe should be launched

any results might take 60 odd years to have the effects you list (if any at all). maybe there will still be life on earth to receive and evaluate the data.

several probes, in fact, to several of the closer systems.

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Response to ibtruthin (Original post)

Sun Mar 5, 2017, 08:57 AM

3. its science the Republicans wont support it ... they all think the Earth is only 6000 years old

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Response to RattyG (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 5, 2017, 09:03 AM

5. you will be reminded that not all republicans are evangelical

but all evangelicals are republican.

a quick look at wikipedia .....

The largest concentration of Evangelicals can be found in the United States, with 28.9% of the U.S. population or 91.76 million, the latter being roughly one third of the world's Evangelicals.

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Response to rampartb (Reply #5)

Sun Mar 5, 2017, 09:44 AM

8. Lol, I love it when liberals go all crazy with the religious hatred and start broad brush attacking

Its so easy to expose your ignorance and bigotry

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jo-kadlecek/evangelical-prolife-democrat_b_1955384.html
Unapologetic: Evangelical Christian, Pro-Life and Democrat

http://www.faithonview.com/im-an-evangelical-democrat/
I’m an Evangelical Democrat and I’m Coming Out… Politically Speaking

http://www.beliefnet.com/news/politics/2004/11/a-democratic-evangelicals-election-reflections.aspx
A Democratic Evangelical's Election Reflections

http://www.christiandemocratsofamerica.org/blog/2016/11/03/standing-proud-as-an-evangelical-pastor-for-hillary/
Standing Proud As An Evangelical Pastor For Hillary

http://www.christiandemocratsofamerica.org/blog/2016/01/27/the-term-evangelical-is-actually-rooted-in-social-justice/
The Term “Evangelical” is Actually Rooted in Social Justice

http://www.christiandemocratsofamerica.org/blog/2011/08/30/labeling-evangelicals/
Labeling “Evangelicals”
Many of our members are faced with these labels, sometimes coming from both sides (as Democrats and liberals we are questioned, “You are an evangelical?!” And within our churches we are questioned “You are a Democrat?!”). Whether you fit the true meaning of the word “evangelical” or not, you no doubt find yourself having to disprove the negative stereotypes many “Christians” in our society have given us…disproving the judgmental, non-compassionate, non-loving and un-merciful stereotypes is part of the CDOA mission.

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Response to RattyG (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 5, 2017, 09:25 AM

7. Liberals ALL love to stereotype using a broad paint brush. ...

Of course not all liberals stereotype and not all conservatives believe the earth is 6000 years old.

Even many conservatives who take the Bible as the literal truth realize that the Bible never really says how old the earth is. Some will point out how can you measure the length of a day before the sun was created on the fourth day. Some simply believe the stories of how the earth was created found in Genesis are simply myths.

Also many Christian conservatives do not believe Noah had dinosaurs on his ark. Many Christian conservatives will tell you that the Bible is simply not a science book.

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Response to ibtruthin (Original post)

Sun Mar 5, 2017, 09:25 AM

6. I would support such a program with enhusiasm. Not for the politics of it, though.

Could this be an event that could break down political walls and bring m,mankind together for a purpose?

Not the slightest chance.

(on edit)

If we could launch probes at a speed of a tenth the speed of light or so, it might be more practical to spend at least a couple of decades doing an extensive exploration of the Solar System before expanding into interstellar space.

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Response to Juan Rico (Reply #6)

Mon Mar 6, 2017, 08:14 PM

11. Agreed

I do not believe science or religion or the cult of personality or any other ism will ever bring us together but it might provide me or my descendants with the chance to get the fuck away from all the crazies left and right here, so in that case I am all for it.

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Response to ibtruthin (Original post)

Sun Mar 5, 2017, 10:06 AM

9. Where does "7-10 Billion dollars" come into it?

I agree that the technology needed to get there that fast doesn't yet exist, and so must just be imagined. But if you think it could be developed for $7-10bn, that's an even bigger fantasy (for reference, the Juno spacecraft costs over $1bn, and that is just to orbit Jupiter).

Are you just thinking of a probe that zooms through a system without stopping, or of one that slows down and goes into orbit round the star? Because the latter is another magnitude more difficult.

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