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Fri Jun 29, 2018, 07:54 PM

Showing why evolution is not science.



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Reply Showing why evolution is not science. (Original post)
nolidad Jun 2018 OP
TheShoe Jun 2018 #1
nolidad Jun 2018 #2
Linszoid Jun 2018 #3
Meowmenow Jun 2018 #4
New Deal Democrat Jun 2018 #6
nolidad Jun 2018 #9
Meowmenow Jun 2018 #14
Troll2 Jun 2018 #5
SatansSon666 Jun 2018 #7
nolidad Jun 2018 #10
SatansSon666 Jun 2018 #12
SatansSon666 Jun 2018 #8
nolidad Jun 2018 #11
SatansSon666 Jun 2018 #13
Meowmenow Jun 2018 #15
nolidad Jul 2018 #16
Meowmenow Jul 2018 #17
nolidad Jul 2018 #18

Response to nolidad (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2018, 07:55 PM

1. LOL!

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Response to TheShoe (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 29, 2018, 08:15 PM

2. Maybe you should listen to this professor

of molecular biology!!!! He has the credentials that can shut you down.

From Wiki:

Academic career
Berlinski was a research assistant in molecular biology at Columbia University, and was a research fellow at the International Institute for Applied Systems Analysis (IIASA) in Austria and the Institut des Hautes Études Scientifiques (IHES) in France.

Author
Mathematics and biology
Berlinski has written works on systems analysis, the history of differential topology, analytic philosophy, and the philosophy of mathematics. Berlinski has authored books for the general public on mathematics and the history of mathematics. These include A Tour of the Calculus (1995) on calculus, The Advent of the Algorithm (2000) on algorithms, Newton's Gift (2000) on Isaac Newton, and Infinite Ascent: A Short History of Mathematics (2005). Another book, The Secrets of the Vaulted Sky (2003), compares astrological and evolutionary accounts of human behavior. In Black Mischief (1988), Berlinski wrote "Our paper became a monograph. When we had completed the details, we rewrote everything so that no one could tell how we came upon our ideas or why. This is the standard in mathematics."

Berlinski's books have received mixed reviews; Newton's Gift and The Advent of the Algorithm were criticized by MathSciNet for containing historical and mathematical inaccuracies while the Mathematical Association of America review of A Tour of the Calculus by Fernando Q. Gouvêa recommended that professors have students read the book to appreciate the overarching historical and philosophical picture of calculus.

Collaborations
Berlinski, along with fellow Discovery Institute associates Michael Behe and William A. Dembski, tutored Ann Coulter on science and evolution for her book Godless: The Church of Liberalism (2006).

Berlinski was a longtime friend of Marcel-Paul Schützenberger (1920–1996), with whom he collaborated on an unfinished and unpublished mathematically based manuscript that he described as being "devoted to the Darwinian theory of evolution". Berlinski dedicated The Advent of the Algorithm to Schützenberger.


Evolution
A critic of the theory of evolution, Berlinski is a Senior Fellow of the Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture, a Seattle-based think tank that is a hub of the intelligent design movement. Berlinski shares the movement's disbelief in the evidence for evolution, but does not openly avow intelligent design and describes his relationship with the idea as: "warm but distant. It's the same attitude that I display in public toward my ex-wives." Berlinski is a scathing critic of evolution, yet, "Unlike his colleagues at the Discovery Institute,... refuses to theorize about the origin of life."

He is not a christian nor an advocate for ID!

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Response to nolidad (Reply #2)

Fri Jun 29, 2018, 08:25 PM

3. So what's his theory then on how life on this planet came to be?

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Response to nolidad (Reply #2)

Fri Jun 29, 2018, 09:02 PM

4. LOL

 

An RA at ... COLUMBIA!!!! So he cleaned lab ware?

7 peer reviewed papers in 20 years and none for the past 30? On what subjects?

Another loon with no credibility in evolutionary biology. (or probably in anything, considering the organization he is a "senior fellow" at)

Another post that belongs in religion or culture.

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Response to Meowmenow (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 29, 2018, 10:55 PM

6. Berlinski is usually referred to as a mathametician

He has authored papers against evolution, but has no known record of his own contribution to the development of mathematics or of any other science. He is a perfect fit for Discussionist's thriving conspiracy theory community, particularly if he can cite any flat earth credentials.

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Response to Meowmenow (Reply #4)

Sat Jun 30, 2018, 12:34 PM

9. Well he probably did more science cleaning test tubes than you have!

But tehn once again instead of debating facts you can only resort to ad-hominems.

Attack teh man so you don't have to deal with the issue-- you and devil boy are so stale!

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Response to nolidad (Reply #9)

Sat Jun 30, 2018, 01:37 PM

14. LOL!

 

Says the guy attacking me.

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Response to nolidad (Reply #2)

Fri Jun 29, 2018, 10:51 PM

5. Appears to be a philosopher, not a molecular biologist.

"The author spent part of 1971 as a research assistant and something of a post-doctoral fellow at the department of biology, Columbia University."

https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/2024776.pdf?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Berlinski

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Response to nolidad (Original post)

Sat Jun 30, 2018, 12:11 AM

7. You can find loons that will agree to just about anything.

Like that guy.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #7)

Sat Jun 30, 2018, 12:34 PM

10. POt calling the kettle black!!!!

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Response to nolidad (Reply #10)

Sat Jun 30, 2018, 12:38 PM

12. He talks about shit he learned in the 70s.

He obviously never kept up because he's a fucking loon.

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Response to nolidad (Original post)

Sat Jun 30, 2018, 04:02 AM

8. The first video is repeated in the second.

So you don't really need it.

He has a lot of opinions and statements he makes with nothing to back it up.
It's all assumptions and bullshit.

No wonder you look up to him.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #8)

Sat Jun 30, 2018, 12:37 PM

11. I thought you would love him!

You " He has a lot of opinions and statements he makes with nothing to back it up.
It's all assumptions and bullshit. "

I thought you would be a fan of his! He uses your modus operandi

YOu are the king of not backing up your pontical ex-cathedrals bloviations!

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Response to nolidad (Reply #11)

Sat Jun 30, 2018, 12:39 PM

13. Wrong.

Again.
As usual.

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Response to nolidad (Reply #11)

Sat Jun 30, 2018, 01:52 PM

15. So that is why you use him to back up your claims?

 

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Response to Meowmenow (Reply #15)

Tue Jul 3, 2018, 02:01 PM

16. No

Because he says what is scientifically provable

That macro evolution is a belief system and not a valid scientific theory>

.A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment. Such fact-supported theories are not "guesses" but reliable accounts of the real world.

If you think us wrong- you can show me to be dead wrong by just showing the change from scales to feathers! Do that and you win!!!!!

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Response to nolidad (Reply #16)

Tue Jul 3, 2018, 02:41 PM

17. It isn't a win lose game.

 

Evolution is real whether YOU believe it or not. If you can't understand the work of all those papers you have "studied" I do not know how to help you. The evidence is there, the explanations are there. Most rational, normal people can comprehend it. Only the willfully ignorant, a few religious nut jobs and "primitive" superstitious people can not.

I don't need to show you are wrong, you do it with every post you make here.

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Response to Meowmenow (Reply #17)

Wed Jul 4, 2018, 01:15 PM

18. Oh I understand what the papers say (with help of online dictionaries)

Evidence is material substance. Itr is not opinion, it is not suggests, it is physical confirmed stuff.

Now little e evolution is observed all the time.

Big E evolution is a conclusion drawn not be scientific methods but by belief!

Remember:A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment. Such fact-supported theories are not "guesses" but reliable accounts of the real world.

We can prove speciation and variation and that mutations are almost always harmful and that teh few "positive" mutations are only "positive" in highly restricted environments

REmember fossils only proved a certain creature existed- it does not prove E evolution.
The naledi cave discovery should have shown even the most ardent evolutionists that. Heidelberg and at least one other supposed ancient homo was found and agreed lived contemporaneously with naledi.

So it threw human evolution a terrible terrible curve! In all the major transitions (like sea to land) the major transitional forms still are all missing .

Remember the only thing we can prove scientifically is that mutations are harmful overall and that the change nevers takes on gensu and turn it to another. Even fruit flies bombarded with all sorts of mutagens, the 2nd generation were still fruit flies with all sorts of grotesque mutations. Those of the 2nd generation that could reproduce, produced normal healthy fruit flies . God designed DNA and RNA to correct mistakes from teh patterns.

My favorite-theropods to avians. The only feathered dinos left all appear in teh evolutionary time scasle after birds were millions of years on teh scene. so we have no clue how scales morphed ot feathers.

I am just waiting fro evidence of just one evolutionary transition that has been declared a fact and yet have not been given any!

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