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Sun Aug 19, 2018, 05:53 AM

When Whales Walked (Slinger, one for you)

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Reply When Whales Walked (Slinger, one for you) (Original post)
Cold Warrior Aug 2018 OP
Gunslinger201 Aug 2018 #1
SatansSon666 Aug 2018 #4
Gunslinger201 Aug 2018 #7
SatansSon666 Aug 2018 #10
nolidad Aug 2018 #2
SatansSon666 Aug 2018 #3
Cold Warrior Aug 2018 #11
Cold Warrior Aug 2018 #14
rampartb Aug 2018 #5
fszwfnj Aug 2018 #6
rampartb Aug 2018 #8
Gunslinger201 Aug 2018 #9
Cold Warrior Aug 2018 #12
Meowmenow Aug 2018 #13

Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2018, 06:19 AM

1. I do enjoy her videos




We live Close to the Calvert Marine Museum and they have a fascinating exhibit on the local area "way back when"

(she had a sexier top on last time though)

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #1)

Sun Aug 19, 2018, 08:12 AM

4. I creeped her instagram

And stuff. She doesn't sex it up very much. That's fine. Curiosity, you know.. lmao..
There are a couple with her hair down though and half of her left arm is tattooed.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #4)

Sun Aug 19, 2018, 08:23 AM

7. a Perv after my own heart



There's a Polynesian girl that works in one of the fast food establishments near work...I always enjoy it when I get her to take my order but I feel Pervy knowing I have Children Older than Her!

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #7)

Sun Aug 19, 2018, 08:31 AM

10. I'm not allowed to sit in on

My wife's yoga classes anymore.
Lmao.
I can watch her karate or workout classes, but not the yoga ones.
It's for the best, especially her 2 evening classes a week when the 20-somethings show up. Not even allowed a window in my office facing the dojo. My wife doesn't get jealous, but it's just to respect her class and their privacy in those positions.. lol
It's fine though. I wouldn't want to make her students feel uncomfortable. Which I inevitably would. I don't wanna be the creepy pervy owner and have people stop coming.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2018, 07:46 AM

2. Before they filmed this:

Someone should have informed the cutey narrator that even the evolutionary community by and large has rejected the "transitions" as transitions from land animals to whales!

This is a tale of letting your belief take a minimal fossil and create a story behind it

Rodhocetus
Rodhocetus was claimed to be an aquatic animal that was developing front flippers and a whale-like tail with flukes (horizontal fins)—i.e. supposedly well on the way to becoming a whale. However, when Dr Werner pointed out to the paleontologist who discovered Rodhocetus, Dr Gingerich, that there was no fossil skeletal evidence for a tail or flippers, Dr Gingerich admitted that this was so. He also admitted that he now thought that the creature had neither of these critical whale features.

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Pakicetus
None of these fossils holds up as transitional to whales
We have already pointed out the extreme story-telling that occurred with Pakicetus, involving Dr Philip Gingerich.3 An incomplete skull fossil was imagined to be that of a whale-like creature, displayed as an artist’s impression on the cover of the prestigious journal, Science, in 1983. Some years later the rest of Pakicetus was found, published in 2001, and it proved to be nothing like a whale. Contrary to what Dr Gingerich had imagined, there was no blowhole, there were no flippers (only hooves), and there was no whale neck (just a neck typical for land mammals). Even so, Dr Werner reveals that the American Museum of Natural History in New York and the Natural History Museum in London have not stopped using the falsely-reconstructed skull that shows a blowhole (see figure 1).

In a National Geographic documentary in 2009, Dr Gingerich still claimed that Pakicetus should be classed with whales, based on its ear-bone. However, the ear-bone is not like a whale, which has a finger-like projection (sigmoid process), but is plate-like, like the fossils of land animals known as artiodactyls.

Ambulocetus

The ‘walking whale’ is portrayed as an intermediate between Pakicetus and Rodhocetus. Dr Hans Thewissen, former student of Dr Gingerich, said that there were eight characteristics that showed that Ambulocetus was a whale ancestor. We have also reported on Ambulocetus (figure 2),4 but Dr Werner recorded on video Dr Thewissen admitting that a key evidence of whale ancestry, the sigmoid process of the ear-bone apparatus (again), was actually nothing like a whale ear bone. Also, the cheek bone, which Thewissen claimed is thin like a whale cheek bone, is actually not thin at all; a horse, for example, has a much thinner cheekbone than Ambulocetus (see figure 3).

Dr Werner says, ‘All eight characters he reported as whale features are disturbingly non-whale features.’
Furthermore, Dr Thewissen’s lab has supplied models of Ambulocetus to various museums that show a blowhole in the snout of the skull, but there is no fossil evidence of a blowhole. Dr Werner says, “All eight characters he reported as whale features are disturbingly non-whale features


Just like the horse series- even evolutionists have dropped this due to lack of evidnece and misclassification of the evidence.

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Response to nolidad (Reply #2)

Sun Aug 19, 2018, 07:53 AM

3. You really need to stop listening to the loons.

It's bad for ya.
It's bad for everyone.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #3)

Sun Aug 19, 2018, 10:37 AM

11. Since our colleague generally avoids citing his cut-and-pastes

I’ve done it for him. Although he’s juggled the order, it comes from Creation.com:

Whale Evolution Fraud

The author is Dr. Don Batten, a PhD in Plant Physiology, who has worked for Creation Ministries International since 1994, the point in time at which his peer-reviewed publications ceased. The main loon, however, is Dr. Carl Werner, a physician with a PhD in Medicine who in university was an “evolutionist.” Then a friend came up to him and asked the following three questions/observations:

1. How did the universe begin creating matter from nothing and thereby violating the First Law of Thermodynamics? Science isn't sure how the universe came into being.
2. How did life originate? Science doesn't yet understand how DNA first evolved.
3. With so many fossils, why are there are gaps in the fossil record?

When young Carl couldn’t answer these questions, he decided Yahweh was the answer. So, one morning Carl and his wife wake up and decide they are going to conduct a grand “experiment” to disprove evolution. They form a film company and decide they are going to put on a show, as Spanky from Our Gang would say. They logically divide their research experiment into the following phases:

1. Interview some prominent evolutionary scientists and, in good Ben Steyn manner, deceive them on the true nature of the project.
2. Travel to 16 dig sites worldwide thereby writing off their vacations as a business expense.
3. Visit multiple museums around the world and film their fossil collections (see (2) regarding tax write offs).
4. Think about it. Read none of scientific research from peer-reviewed journals. Just think about it.
5. Put together some DVDs for sale. Publish no peer-reviewed research as there’s no money in that. Order now for only $29.99 and get a second set free!! Just pay P&H of $9.99 for each. Whatja wanna bet our friend has these?

Werner appeared on a Creationist talk show called “Origins” where he hawked his DVDs and his coffee table book published by the same house that publishes Ken Ham. I watched about 15 minutes of the first of these and caught the following gem from Werner:

“... and I questioned, when this all started, is this one of these big finds, like when we discovered that the Earth wasn't flat and it was round, you know, 100s or so years ago? Or when Galileo and Copernicus put together that the Earth wasn't the center of a planetary system? Is this one of those big blunders that I've stumbled upon that the whole paradigm is gonna have to shift because evolution doesn't work out, or do I just not understand it.”

So, there you have it. Move over Galileo and Corpernicus. Dr. Carl Warner has arrived. Just add in Einstein and we have our candidates for the Mount Rushmore of science. Or maybe, just maybe Carl, you don’t understand. What an elfin idiot and charlatan.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #3)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 07:08 AM

14. If you can stomach it, here's the huckster

Pay special attention to the scientific method he uses to disprove evolution.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2018, 08:17 AM

5. The descent of woman

There is some evidence that humans spent generations as aquatic mammala. This might account for upright posture, reduced body hair, buoyant breasts, etc.

At some point the species pulled back to dry land, but we still enjoy the beach.

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Response to rampartb (Reply #5)

Sun Aug 19, 2018, 08:23 AM

6. Water ape theory?

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Response to fszwfnj (Reply #6)

Sun Aug 19, 2018, 08:26 AM

8. Chimps do not have much fat,

Useful for insulation in cool water.

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Response to fszwfnj (Reply #6)

Sun Aug 19, 2018, 08:27 AM

9. Absolutely



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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #9)

Sun Aug 19, 2018, 11:09 AM

12. Ha!!!

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