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Sat Dec 22, 2018, 05:16 AM

Scottish wind farm paid £96m to switch off



Scotsman.com | ILONA AMOS | 20 DEC 2018

Compensation payments of more than £500 million have been made to wind farms to switch off turbines over the past eight years, the latest figures show.

A new monthly record was set in September this year, when £28,434,560 was paid out by National Grid to stop electricity generation. Most cash was paid to Scottish wind farms, with some earning more than £1m a month for not supplying power.

Whitelee and its extension on the outskirts of Glasgow, the biggest onshore wind farm in the UK, has received almost a fifth of the entire pot since 2010, with payments totalling more than £96m to date.

Meanwhile, the 350MW Clyde scheme, near Abington in South Lanarkshire, has raked in more than £64m and the Griffin, near Aberfeldy in Perthshire, nearly £32m.

The amount paid out has been rising annually, despite a new transmission cable to export power from Scotland south of the Border....more: https://www.scotsman.com/news/environment/scottish-wind-farm-paid-96m-to-switch-off-1-4846602

This will happen more often as more renewable energy comes online. Simply a fact.

What was that about Hydrogen wasting energy?

What do you call paying wind farm operators to shut down turbines?





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P2G



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Power-to-gas (often abbreviated P2G) is a technology that converts electrical power to a gas fuel. When using surplus power from wind generation, the concept is sometimes called windgas. There are currently three methods in use; all use electricity to split water into hydrogen and oxygen by means of electrolysis.

In the first method, the resulting hydrogen is injected into the natural gas grid or is used in transport or industry. The second method is to combine the hydrogen with carbon dioxide and convert the two gases to methane (see natural gas) using a methanation reaction such as the Sabatier reaction, or biological methanation resulting in an extra energy conversion loss of 8%. The methane /SNG may then be fed into the natural gas grid or further converted in to LPG by synthesising SNG with partial reverse hydrogenation at high pressure and low temperature. LPG in turn can be converted into alkylate which is a premium gasoline blending stock because it has exceptional antiknock properties and gives clean burning. The third method uses the output gas of a wood gas generator or a biogas plant, after the biogas upgrader is mixed with the produced hydrogen from the electrolyzer, to upgrade the quality of the biogas...more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power-to-gas

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Response to Aquila (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2018, 05:35 AM

1. It means they have an overcapacity of cheap electricity.

'What do you call paying wind farm operators to shut down turbines?'

Which improves Standard of Living for it's customers.

American's now don't want a Standard of Living for themselves or their children.

They wan't a dystopian CHAOS.



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Response to RATFINK_5.0 (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 22, 2018, 05:50 AM

2. They got it

------"They wan't a dystopian CHAOS."------

Few in the US want to think about how much 17 years of war in Afghanistan costs, let alone drone bombing wedding parties.

The US is a bankrupt nation.

Fiscally, morally and spiritually Bankrupt.

Fix it or leave, that's what people have to figure out.

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Response to Aquila (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 22, 2018, 08:08 AM

4. ''The US is a bankrupt nation''...yep, thus why US should cut off all foreign aid, kick out the UN

...headquarters, and bring home all our troops so all those countries (ie germany, spain, japan, etc) can start wearing their big girl pants like everyone else. Just think how all the saved $$$$$$ could be used towards building brand new nuclear/hydro/solar/ng/wind/geothermal/etc power plants all around this nation and making this country more energy independent.

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Response to Aquila (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2018, 07:56 AM

3. ''Given it takes a turbine five years to repay the carbon footprint of its production and...

...installation, how much more does switching them off add to that time?'' ~ Paul Holyrood • 2 days ago

What an excellent question that commenter poses.........funny how the time ''to repay the carbon footprint of its production and installation'' little details are never mentioned by YOU nor any of the articles you post here. Why are you, and your sources, afraid to be totally honest here???

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Response to Aquila (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2018, 10:11 AM

5. Australia called... they want to know why their electricity bills are 6X of those in the US

hehe
in 2 years, we will be sitting here reading your magic energy posts about ANY DAY NOW!!!!
hehe

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Response to Aquila (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2018, 10:56 AM

6. And why do you think an energy company would pay someone to stop producing energy?

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