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Mon Dec 31, 2018, 05:50 AM

Science quotes of the year.

Hard to narrow it down to 10..

What were the best nuggets of wisdom we learned in the science category this year?
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When a theory is proven it becomes a law
1 (20%)
A watt is a unit of heat.
1 (20%)
T-rex teeth were perfect for a vegetarian diet.
1 (20%)
The pyramids were built before or after Noah's flood.
0 (0%)
There are no such things as beneficial mutations.
1 (20%)
Show me scales to feathers and you win!
0 (0%)
There is more evidence for a young earth than an old earth.
0 (0%)
Last time I checked, plants do not emit CO2.
1 (20%)
Latent heat isn't thermal energy.
0 (0%)
The 2nd law of thermodynamics disproves evolution.
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Response to SatansSon666 (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 06:45 AM

1. so much from which to choose!

happy new year, fellow believer in the great and powerful science.

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Response to rampartb (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 09:47 AM

14. Happy new year to you too rampart.


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Response to SatansSon666 (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 08:29 AM

2. You misrepresented what a watt is, but you finally realized the term is used

as a measurement of solar, or radiant, heat gained per square foot from the sun.

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Response to oflguy (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 08:39 AM

4. No. Someone kept saying a watt was a unit of heat.

Until he finally realized he was wrong the whole time.
Then tried to backpedal and pretend he knew all along.
It was pretty funny.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 09:34 AM

12. Here is one small example

"My bad" (a term I never use) will suffice.

Basking in the Sun
Posted on 2012-01-17
Who hasn’t enjoyed heat from the sun? Doing so represents a direct energetic transfer—via radiation—from the sun’s hot surface to your skin. One square meter can catch about 1000 W, which is comparable to the output of a portable space heater. A dark surface can capture the energy at nearly 100% efficiency, beating (heating?) the pants off of solar photovoltaic (PV) capture efficiency, for instance. We have already seen that solar PV qualifies as a super-abundant resource, requiring panels covering only about 0.5% of land to meet our entire energy demand (still huge, granted). So direct thermal energy from the sun, gathered more efficiently than what PV can do, is automatically in the abundant club.

https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/2012/01/basking-in-the-sun/

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Response to oflguy (Reply #12)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 09:37 AM

13. Does it say a watt is a unit of heat?

I'm not going through this again with you.

A watt is a unit of power.
It is measured in joules per second.
A joule is a unit of energy. Any energy. Not just heat.
So by definition a watt cannot be a unit of heat anymore than miles per hour is a unit of distance.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #13)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 10:14 AM

20. I clearly made my point

Take it or leave it

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Response to oflguy (Reply #20)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 12:20 PM

26. No, you didn't.

There is no way you can make a watt a unit of heat.
It just isn't.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #26)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 04:44 PM

30. It is over time

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Response to oflguy (Reply #30)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 05:32 PM

31. lmfao.

No, it isn't.
It's work done.
Power is automatically "over time", that's why the /sec is there.
It is the rate of energy transfer.
Any energy. electrical, thermal, light, nuclear, sound, mechanical.... blah blah blah

A watt isn't a unit of everything, it is a unit of the work that they do.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #31)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 08:45 PM

33. over time

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Response to oflguy (Reply #33)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 03:51 AM

36. Lmfao

Doesn't even understand how units of measurement work.
Oh well. Just don't put put the link to this thread on your business card and you should be good.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #36)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 06:38 AM

37. one joule per second

a second is a unit of time genius

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Response to oflguy (Reply #37)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 07:16 AM

38. So is a watt a unit of time now too?

Lmfao..
You'll never get it I guess.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #38)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 11:47 AM

44. You never admit you are wrong

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Response to oflguy (Reply #44)

Wed Jan 2, 2019, 04:17 AM

48. I have several times just on this board.

You will never make a watt a unit of heat.
No text book or resource calls it a unit of heat.
Just something you are going to have to learn to live with.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 08:31 AM

3. Who told you latent heat isn't thermal energy?

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Response to oflguy (Reply #3)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 08:42 AM

5. Someone kept asking what constitutes heat in air.

Over and over and over again.
Someone else pointed out several times that thermal energy was the answer.
Then the person said latent heat doesn't count as thermal energy, until I corrected him and he finally looked it up and had to admit he was wrong the whole time.
He finally stopped asking the question after that.
It was pretty funny.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #5)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 08:45 AM

6. Are you trying to say I said latent heat is not thermal energy??????

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Response to oflguy (Reply #6)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 08:56 AM

7. Yes.

Maybe not those exact words but you clearly didn't know because that was your 'gotcha' until you were forced to look it up and admit that you didn't know latent heat was thermal energy.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #7)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 09:07 AM

8. Sorry fella, but I make my living determining heat loads that include sensible and latent heat

But nice try.

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Response to oflguy (Reply #8)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 09:10 AM

9. Well, you said "my bad" then proceeded to admit that you didn't know.

So..
Too bad for you.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #9)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 09:12 AM

10. Ya gotta laugh

or else you'll cry in this forum

I choose to laugh

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Response to oflguy (Reply #10)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 09:20 AM

11. It is pretty funny.

https://www.discussionist.com/101827153#post22

Oflguy: by golly you're right..
I've never considered latent heat as thermal, but by definition it is

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #11)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 09:51 AM

15. I also said

"Now, back to my point in asking what constitutes heat in air.

We keep track of "record heat" using sensible heat measurements only, when, in fact, the amount of heat in air is a combination of sensible and latent heat. So, in reality, we really can't say that a particular day "set a new record" because we don't know what the total heat is when using only sensible measurements.

The amount of heat in air can be doubled by just adding more water vapor to a sample of air. We go around talking about global warming in terms of tenths of a degree when actually we are "flying blind" about how warm air really is.

For an example, 104 degree air in Arizona when the relative humidity is 5 percent is quite different from 104 degree air at 80 percent. Without the other "half" of the heat equation, we just don't know the true quantity of heat in air.

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Response to oflguy (Reply #15)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 09:56 AM

16. So. Who cares what you 'also' said?

You didn't know latent heat was thermal energy.
That's all I was talking about.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #16)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 09:59 AM

17. I know well that latent heat is part of the heat equation

What you call it is semantics

I hope you learned something about "record" temperatures and NOAA, or at least stirred your thinking about global warming claims.

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Response to oflguy (Reply #17)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 10:04 AM

18. Lmao. Yeah you know it alright.

Now you do anyway.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #18)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 10:06 AM

19. As I said, I make a damn good living determining heat loads which include sensible and latent heat

You don't

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Response to oflguy (Reply #19)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 10:15 AM

21. No. I just had to calculate all the heat

In several chemical reactions to produce strong acids and bases.

What the fuck would I know about it?

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #21)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 10:17 AM

22. Not enough to understand the global warmers are a bunch of scammers

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Response to oflguy (Reply #22)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 10:28 AM

23. Still more than you.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #23)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 10:35 AM

24. You have time to figure it out

I'll help you

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Response to oflguy (Reply #24)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 10:39 AM

25. Figure what out?

Is this going to be another quiz?

Lmfao.

You can quiz me all you want.

I proved my point by posting your own words saying you didn't know latent heat was thermal energy.

Don't waste your time.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #25)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 01:19 PM

27. I could ask you a ton of questions you don't know the answer to

especially in the area of sensible and latent heat, but you are not interested in learning anything. I'd be wasting my time.

IT refers to the anti-capitalist scam perpetuated on you and others too naive to recognize it, even when it is spelled out to you in crystal clear facts. You can't see it because you don't want to see it.

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Response to oflguy (Reply #27)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 03:44 PM

28. So could I.

Could ask you all kinds of questions about heat in chemical reactions and equations, but it's pointless because that's not the subject.

The subject was whether or not you knew latent heat was a form of thermal energy.
When you acted like I was making it up, you would never say that because you are a heat expert and calculate latent heat energy all the time, then when I showed you my proof you start talking about global warming.
You fucked up and rather than admit it, had to try to be right about something.
Pretending now that your job means you know more about it than me, when in fact my job had me calculating it far more precisely than you would have to. With bigger consequences if errors are made.

You failed.
Should have just left it be and scrolled on past.
I knew you wouldn't be able to though.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #28)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 04:33 PM

29. Silly, the thread was about NOAA and their useless sensible temperature records

And how global warmers even pay attention to them, when they don't measure true heat content.

Now, go ahead and say something that proves you didn't get it.

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Response to oflguy (Reply #29)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 05:36 PM

32. This thread is about shit people said in here over the last year.

This subthread is about you saying you knew the whole time that latent heat was thermal energy, then I proved you didn't.
You brought up global warming scam. Out of nowhere.
I'm not gonna argue the old thread here if that's what you are trying to do. I'd do it in that thread if I wanted to.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #32)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 09:42 AM

42. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

Whatever you say Last Word SS

Whatever you say

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Response to oflguy (Reply #42)

Wed Jan 2, 2019, 08:16 AM

49. Well it's all there for everyone to see.

So my last word will be an anagram.
L.M.A.O.!!

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Response to oflguy (Reply #8)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 07:35 AM

40. So when you are determining the heat loads,

what molecules/compounds are changing phases to require you to use the specific latent heat equations to determine the specific latent heat in the "heat load"?
Fusion or evaporation or both?

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #40)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 09:47 AM

43. None

Not required. But what IS important is to determine the sensible heat factor so as to design the proper equipment. You know what that is, right?

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Response to oflguy (Reply #43)

Wed Jan 2, 2019, 04:02 AM

46. But you said you had to calculate the latent heat.

Or that it was part of the equation .
Why would it be?

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #46)

Wed Jan 2, 2019, 11:55 AM

51. You think that the only load on cooling equipment is sensible?

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Response to oflguy (Reply #51)

Thu Jan 3, 2019, 04:03 AM

53. I asked you a question.

Answering with another question isn't an answer.
Why calculate latent heat unless there is a phase change?
The constsnt for specific latent heat of evaporation of water might be included for humidity but humidity isn't constant.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #53)

Thu Jan 3, 2019, 11:24 AM

56. Why calculate latent heat unless there is a phase change?

Because it happens on the cooling coil. That is what the water dripping from a window unit is.

If there was no condensation, there would not be a (latent) load on the equipment. The colder the coil, the more latent heat removal that takes place.

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Response to oflguy (Reply #56)

Thu Jan 3, 2019, 01:33 PM

57. Yeah. Thanks. I wasn't looking at it the proper way.

I'm so used to doing it certain ways in reactions and usually not water. The equations aren't the same and I didn't see how you would have to do a complete calculation every time for every room etc..
It would be complicated enough in a large building I'm sure without having to worry about shit like that.
I see some of the constants they made to keep it quicker too.
I ignored all that when I did it home, never thought of certain things because they had it worked out already.

I like to keep it as constant heat/humidity as I can for my guitars, but humidity is more important.
I got it set good, thanks to those equations I yanked off the Web.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #57)

Thu Jan 3, 2019, 02:05 PM

58. In applications where humidity is critical, humidity can be controlled by either a humidifier in low

humidity situations, or by forcing the cooling on in high humidity conditions, regardless of temperature, which pulls moisture out of the air, and then reheating it to keep the space from over cooling. This way, precise humidity can be maintained.

I once was asked to use an electronic residential thermostat in a printing company workroom to control humidity. I used a humidistat, but instead of the conventional method of over riding the cooling, I forced the heat on and let the cooling control the temperature. There was a problem doing it conventionally due to a limitation in the stat. Psychrometrically, you arrive at the same goal, precise humidity control.

In the old days, operating rooms could not become too dry because the anesthetics used were explosive and a spark from static electricity could be catastrophic. Today, the anesthetics are much more safe and humidity is not critical.

I have a son that is a surgeon and he came to me one day because the nurses were feeding him a bunch of crap about operating room temperatures and how allowing them to get too cold was unhealthy because it resulted in high humidity. After I stopped laughing I explained to him the fundamentals and assured him the equipment never stops removing moisture, no matter how cold they make the room. The issue with the nurses was they did not like to put on sweaters. He told me he wants the room cold because he does not want to drip sweat into an open wound.

I told him to go to Walmart and purchase a humidity indicator and hang it in the operating room to keep them quiet.

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Response to oflguy (Reply #58)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 04:25 AM

59. I had had a friend install a system in his house.

He had it set right where he liked it but always complained about it not being comfortable.
I asked him what the humidity was and he asked "why does that matter it's set for 75."
I then briefly explained how humidity works and that latent heat won't show up on the thermometer and that is probably why it wasn't working right. Sure enough he never once adjuted the humidistat. The control panel want that complicated but he figured since it was such an expensive system it should know how to set it automatically.
I said it doesn't "know" anything and everyone and every house is different.
I asked him what the guy that installed it said to do and he said he just told him he'd figure it out on his own.
After arguing with him about it I made him get his user manual and said "READ IT!!!"
He did and finally started getting his money's worth out of the system.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #59)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 07:14 AM

60. I wonder what the cause was?

Generally, residential systems don't sense relative humidity, but some do. One way to do it is with a variable speed compressor. Slowing down the compressor and the fan reduces cooling capacity and makes the system run longer, which allows more moisture to be removed. Also, passing air through the coil more slowly enables the removal of more moisture. This gets back to what I mentioned earlier about the problem of oversizing a system and how it can result in high humidity.

Its possible the contractor oversized your friend's system. Having variable capacity can help rectify that.

Some systems have two speed compressors with a two stage thermostat. While running in the low speed, the fan slows down also. A humidistat can force the system to run in low speed to allow more moisture removal.

In commercial systems, as I mentioned before, the cooling is over ridden, and the air is heated as necessary to maintain temperature.

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Response to oflguy (Reply #60)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 07:53 AM

61. I thought maybe he was running too much "power"

If you'd call it that, which would cause high humidity but he was also running an air exchanger and I think they were fighting.
He had it set at the wrong end of the dial for humidity for the temperature for the time of year. It wasn't clicking on at all. So it wasn't controlling the humidity which I guess was fucking up the proper cooling. He was sucking in humid air and the exchangers built in dehumidifier wasn't on to condense it and drip it out into the drain.
I told him he probably didn't need his air exchanger and he said the technician told him that but you can't tell that guy nothing. He figured 2 was better than one or some shit.
He finally got it figured out. He said on his own, but he probably called the guy back and had to pay him again. Lmao.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #61)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 08:53 AM

62. Ah, that could do it.

There were many new "experts" out there in the business. The introduction of foam insulation and new insulation techniques, such as insulating attics, brought about various new issues concerning humidity and temperature control.

Some contractors became so caught up in their own hype about "tight" houses, that they began to convince themselves that such devices as air exchangers were necessary. I guess they forgot their houses still had doors and windows.

They got the idea from commercial buildings, which use outside air, introduced into the system's return before the air is cooled and dehumidified. But commercial buildings employ a lot of exhaust air fans for such things as bathrooms and stairwells, so without introducing sufficient outside air, the building can become "negative," whereby large amounts of humid outside air will infiltrate into the building.

Residences have no such problem, that is, until these new "experts" arrived. Air exchangers are not just unnecessary, they oftentimes create high humidity problems when outside air is very humid. Not only that, they create unnecessary energy expense to remove the excess moisture.

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Response to oflguy (Reply #62)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 09:28 AM

63. My house has one.

Works alright when i tuen it on, even if it isn't completely necessary. I was getting fresh air in/stale out upstairs but nothing in the basement because they didn't put an intake/exhaust down there.
Really fucked up my flow. Created pressure zones and if I walked down the stairs I could notice the difference like an invisible wall.
Different temp and humidity.
If I made a fire in the fireplace I had to open windows to equalize the air because it wouldn't catch a draft. Once it caught the draft I could close the windows.
I put an extra intake vent into the basement and the problem was solved.
Again..
Guy told me..
No you don't need that.. it will circulate.
Sure thing buddy.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #63)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 09:43 AM

64. Fresh air intakes and air exchangers are two different things

If you have foam insulation, fresh air intakes are required. a small duct with an automatic damper allows a small amount of outside air into the A/C system return, mixing with the air in the house. It is wise to have a filter between the air intake and the cooling coil. This puts a small positive pressurization on the house and likewise introduces some fresh air into it. The reason for this is to guard against any contaminates from the foam. If this is working properly, you should not need to open a window for your fireplace. Some fireplaces have a vent for this.

Basements can be problematic if the basement is near or below the water table and the walls are not sealed properly.

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Response to oflguy (Reply #64)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 10:37 AM

65. Air exchanger

But I put a T on the fresh air duct with an adjustable vent in the basement before it goes upstairs, this let fresh air in but I didn't put an exhaust vent.
I noticed the difference almost immediately.
Everything stabilized and no more issues with the fire or pressure.
My basement is 2 inch foam insulation behind sheetrock. Sprayfoam around the crown. It was sealed pretty tigh, except for the chimney, I suppose, but that seals pretty good when it's closed and it usually is. I rarely use it except on the coldest night or for "ambience".
Wink wink.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #65)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 10:54 AM

66. If it ain't broke, don't fix it

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Response to oflguy (Reply #43)

Wed Jan 2, 2019, 08:23 AM

50. 5 years ago I wanted to install air conditioning in my basement.

It took me about 15 minutes to calculate the heat load after measuring the room and windows, lights and wattage of appliances to determine what size I would need with formulas off the Internet and HVAC sites.

There was no latent heat equation required.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #50)

Wed Jan 2, 2019, 12:15 PM

52. people generate latent heat from the moisture from their bodies

Depending on the application, the latent load can vary. I once had to design a process refrigeration system whereby a room that contained concrete samples to be tested had to remain wet. The cooling coil had to be very thin so as to remove the least amount of moisture possible, yet keep the room at a certain temperature with high humidity. That coil had to be designed specifically for the application whereby a minimum of moisture (latent heat) was removed.

When you used formulas off the internet, they used approximate sensible to latent ratios in them. Residential applications can do this.

However, in a commercial building with special equipment that generates a lot of sensible heat (like the old computer rooms that were full of computers), the sensible cooling vs latent cooling load is quite different. In fact, all computer room equipment is designed with humidifiers in them, because the humidity in the room can become too low.

An assembly hall or meeting room that can hold a lot of people will have a higher than normal latent load. Ignore that fact and the thermometer can say the temperature is ok, but it will still be uncomfortable.

Buildings where paper is manufactured or printing is done need special design considerations. It might be necessary to lower or raise the relative humidity, depending on what is required. 50% RH usually works out fine.

The latent load on cooling equipment is just as real as the sensible load, and that total load is how the size of the equipment is determined.

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Response to oflguy (Reply #52)

Thu Jan 3, 2019, 04:12 AM

54. Well those formulas had all that in them.

I didn't have to add people and large equipment because, well, it's s basement.
No latent heat calculation.
Now if condensation occurs you would have to add in the gain of thermal energy released through condensation.
I assume you would have to average it out or have a constant for this. The specific latent heat of evaporation is known and is probably already factored into your equations.
If that is the case you don't have to calculate the latent heat, just what would be expected under normal circumstances as humidity rises or condensation occurs.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #54)

Thu Jan 3, 2019, 09:53 AM

55. Moisture infiltrates into a structure just as sensible heat does

So the latent load is not just people.

Equipment made for residential use comes "off the shelf" no matter what area of the country it is sold in. Obviously, southern locations that have warmer climates require more latent capability, but in air conditioning, close counts, especially residential. That is why it is important to not oversize residential equipment in warm climates. They will not run long enough to pull the moisture out of the air, and high humidity can result.

Commercial can be quite different. Many hospital operating rooms require 100 percent outside air. They do not recirculate air. So in warm climates, that presents a significant latent load on the equipment. Typical commercial applications require 10% outside air.

I'm always leary of a building designed by northern engineers for southern applications. I have seen brand new buildings require renovations like sheet rock replacement after one summer because of the damage from excessive moisture in the air. The designed the building as if it were in New York, not New Orleans. Certain hotels come to mind.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 10:38 PM

34. All time winner

IMO, is the flat earth thing



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Response to Squeek (Reply #34)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 07:29 AM

39. Yeah, unfortunately we don't have any flat-earthers here.

Except maybe the creationist, but I think he worked a way around the whole flat earth bible thing, because even he can't deny the evidence favoring a round earth.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 11:30 PM

35. Those are some doosies.

Why anyone that posted them thinks that they know enough to make intelligent posts in this forum is a mystery, but that's how things seem to be.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 09:07 AM

41. I'm going with...

Rob is a dingbat.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2019, 03:57 AM

45. Pretty Hard To Argue With This One:

"The pyramids were built before or after Noah's flood."

Only alternative is that they were built DURING the flood. Seems unlikely.

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Response to Bubba (Reply #45)

Wed Jan 2, 2019, 04:13 AM

47. Right. Except the point was they can't make up their mind.

There weren't enough people after the flood to build them and the flood would have destroyed them.
So they have to try to work around it. Which they can't.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 01:25 PM

67. No limits

All that stuff could be true. You just have to train your mind to believe in the truth of multiple mutually exclusive categories.

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