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Sun Jan 6, 2019, 05:25 AM

the big bang? maybe not yet .........

let me try to explain this one in 4 dimensions (x,y,z, and time). when a soap bubble comes into contact with another, their intersection is a 3 dimensional (radial surface and time) that expands as the bubbles converge.

in this model the bubbles are 5 dimensional. and our universe is the 4 dimensional space time that is expamding as the bubbles converge.

https://www.sciencealert.com/existing-string-theory-can-t-explain-why-space-expands-but-this-new-idea-might

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Reply the big bang? maybe not yet ......... (Original post)
rampartb Jan 6 OP
SatansSon666 Jan 6 #1
rampartb Jan 6 #2
Squeek Jan 6 #9
nolidad Jan 6 #3
SatansSon666 Jan 6 #5
Bob the Bilderberger Jan 6 #4
SatansSon666 Jan 6 #6
Squeek Jan 6 #10
rampartb Jan 6 #7
MumblyPeg Jan 6 #8
nolidad Jan 6 #11
SatansSon666 Jan 6 #12

Response to rampartb (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2019, 07:26 AM

1. That's interesting.

Kind of fits with the universe being a "bubble" hypothesis where it's looked at similar to a boiling pot of water and when the energy becomes too great new universes bubble out, expand and go on their merry way. Of course you'd have to try to explain what we "bubbled" out of and where that energy came from, but first things first.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #1)

Sun Jan 6, 2019, 07:45 AM

2. the multiplicity of dimensions beyond human perception

should appeal to those with a more spiritual bent, allowing multidimensional beings to observe our 4 dimensional lives and perhaps even responding to our meagre prayers with powerful superstrings.

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Response to rampartb (Reply #2)

Sun Jan 6, 2019, 11:42 AM

9. Multidimensional beings

could explain our world/universe, but then there's the problem...

Where did those beings come from?

I sometimes like to freak myself out by thinking of stuff like that...

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Response to rampartb (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2019, 07:54 AM

3. This is more sci-fi than Star Trek!

These "concepts" cannot even qualify as a basic hypothesis yet. They are just the public musings of theoretical physicists et. al.who know that the current accepted hypotheses of the BB/TOE cannot answer their own contradictions.

If space is truly expanding outward (the ongoing momentum from the BB), they stilkl have not explained what it is expanding into!

And for the record multi-verse is a complete contradiction in terms!

Just remember you can prove anything mathematically--but that does not mean the mathematical proof has any basis in reality.

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Response to nolidad (Reply #3)

Sun Jan 6, 2019, 08:14 AM

5. It isn't expanding into anything.

I mean really. You make statements that you perceive to be big mysteries and the answers are so well thought out and explained if you would take the time to understand. All you got is..
What's on the other side? etc..

I can prove ANYTHING mathematically?
Not god.
However if somehow god was proven mathematically, then all of a sudden, you'd be all cool with the math that proved god.

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Response to rampartb (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2019, 08:11 AM

4. Big Bang?

I'm still waiting for the explanation of what it was that exploded, where it was when it did so, and how did it get there?

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Response to Bob the Bilderberger (Reply #4)

Sun Jan 6, 2019, 08:21 AM

6. Nobody knows.

Even if those things were explained, there would be something else to ask as well.
What was there to cause what caused the big bang, how did it get there?
It's endless.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #6)

Sun Jan 6, 2019, 11:59 AM

10. The girls on the boxes

of butter.

How many of those girls holding boxes with pictures of girls holding boxes with pictures of girls....



/revision/latest?cb=20171016102124


Do they go on forever?

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Response to Bob the Bilderberger (Reply #4)

Sun Jan 6, 2019, 09:52 AM

7. the big bang is a singularity

a point in the equations where a division by 0 occurs. division by zero is undefined in our nimber system. tru it on your calculator and let me know the result (no, the calculator will not explode, but you might get a more sensible answer if you divide by a very small number that is nearly 0. those sensible answers suggest what MIGHT be occurring at 0, but of course............)

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Response to Bob the Bilderberger (Reply #4)

Sun Jan 6, 2019, 11:19 AM

8. well, you know.. it was a single point. the entire universe was all contained in a tiny little speck

so small that it couldn't even be measured. then it just exploded... we don't know why, but hey, shit just explodes.
Then, it expands at a rate faster than we say is possible in the physical universe.
hehee

the actual truth is, we have no fluxin idea what the heck happened or why.
Science is science. What can be measured and proven cannot be denied. But, unlike some, I do not consider this any reason whatsoever to discount God and his creation. Even the fact that species evolve does not discount nor disprove in any way that we are Gods creation.
Many consider humanity and science to be proof, but 99% of what is taught is theoretical. This is as naive as believing The Bible is to be taken literally, word for word... or as dishonest, depending on the detractor.
The universe is accurately described as chaotic,and very gradually evolving toward complete entropy. But is this true? Will that state ever be achieved and static?
I can say no just as easily as theorists can say yes, and neither will ever be known by humanity.
There is nothing that declares earth and humanity as Gods only project.
We have, however, been given a baseline for civility and good nature in Christianity and a belief in God. We can abide by it and live good and just lives, or we can spend our time absorbed by the chaos itself. That is our free will in a nut shell... and I prefer to believe that the only real chaos is that way by the design of God himself.

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Response to MumblyPeg (Reply #8)

Sun Jan 6, 2019, 02:58 PM

11. Well then it just broke the 2nd law of thermodynamics.

If we had an eternal speck of Space/Time/matter/energy, it would have long entropied to dead energy before the big bang!

If it was a non existent singularity- then it breaks the 1st law of thermodynamics for matter+energy must always equal 100% But a non existent to big bang creates something out of nothing which cannot happen!

Other than complex formulae that cannot be validated empirically, and present observations extrapolated 14 by in space/time, we have no evidence of the current hypotheses.

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Response to nolidad (Reply #11)

Sun Jan 6, 2019, 03:59 PM

12. Lmao.

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