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Thu Feb 28, 2019, 03:54 PM

Global Warming: Los Angeles Has Coldest February in 60 Years

Los Angeles is officially experiencing the coldest February in nearly 60 years, according to the National Weather Service, as the city has endured a series of storms and is bracing for more later this week.
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Last week saw a rare snowfall within the urban parts of the city, including West Hollywood.

Currently, the state’s snowpack is already at 119% above its April 1 average.


https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2019/02/25/global-warming-los-angeles-has-coldest-february-in-60-years/

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Reply Global Warming: Los Angeles Has Coldest February in 60 Years (Original post)
Iron Condor Feb 28 OP
SatansSon666 Feb 28 #1
bruiserboy Feb 28 #2
quad489 Feb 28 #3
Transcendence Mar 4 #4
SatansSon666 Mar 5 #5
Iron Condor Mar 5 #6
SatansSon666 Mar 5 #7
Iron Condor Mar 5 #8
SatansSon666 Mar 5 #10
Transcendence Mar 5 #9
Jack Burton Friday #11

Response to Iron Condor (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2019, 03:56 PM

1. 6.

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Response to Iron Condor (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2019, 04:08 PM

3. So ''nearly 60 years'' it had the coldest February, 55 years before the arctic ice caps melted away

just as our great eco leader AL ''must save the earth'' GORE had predicted a decade earlier..........

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Response to Iron Condor (Original post)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 08:25 PM

4. Ireland has the hottest February in almost 60 years

Ireland has been basking in the hottest February in 60 years as temperatures regularly reached a balmy 17C.

The unseasonably mild weather is the hottest it has been since 1960 and not far off the all time record set in 1881 when temperatures reached 18.1C.


https://evoke.ie/2019/02/27/news/hottest-february-in-almost-60-years

What does that prove? The same as your post: not a damn thing.

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Response to Transcendence (Reply #4)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 05:57 AM

5. It proves thermodynamics still works.

It also proves that people that don't understand science also can't make a distinction between climate and weather, global and local.

Nothing can change their minds, so it's fun to just laugh.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #5)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 11:24 AM

6. I laugh too

I laugh at the people who deny the reality that the empirical data does not support the global warming alarmists claims of man made warming.







"Cooling" for 35 years during a time period of major expansive industrial activity
producing expansive levels of CO2. This completely contradicts the man made argument.



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Response to Iron Condor (Reply #6)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 03:20 PM

7. Did you check to see what may have caused that cooling?

One picture surely isn't enough to convince you of something I'd hope.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #7)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 03:36 PM

8. The same thing that's been causing cooling & warming for millions of years

Over three decades of expansive CO2 from industrial activity not only didn't do jack to raise the temperature. But as you can see the temperature decreased.

When you understand that the atmosphere is 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen and the last remaining 1%, only 1/3 of that is CO2, and, of that only about 1/3 of 1% is from human activity. And when you understand that CO2 is a minor, not major, greenhouse gas. And when you understand that CO2, like H2O (which by-the-way H2O is a major greenhouse gas), has a natural cycle and part of that cycle is elevated levels of it causes plants to grow larger. And when you realize the earth's surface area is about 25% landmass and 75% ocean. And when you understand that the ocean, as part of the CO2 cycle, absorbs lots of CO2. And when you understand that less than half of that landmass which only makes up 25% of the earth's surface is actually occupied by people. You may begin to understand that a teeny tiny amount of CO2, a minor greenhouse gas, being produced by people isn't doing jack.

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Response to Iron Condor (Reply #8)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 05:23 PM

10. ya.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that your numbers are accurate, percentages and stuff, but we can worry about that later if it becomes necessary.

We can start with the first problem, explaining the dip.

Now you mentioned that CO2 is a weak greenhouse gas, so concentrations of it aren't as bad as say, higher levels of H20 vapor in the air. CO2 and water act differently and contribute to each other, but I'm not gonna get into that.
Since you claim it's weak, other factors can more easily counteract the effect that CO2 seemed to be having before the dip, it acts the same regardless, but something slowed the warming. There has to be less thermal energy radiating back from the surface.
Perhaps something was slowing the rate at which energy from the sun was reaching the surface of the earth and bouncing back out to the levels of the atmosphere that the CO2 is in.
What can cause that? Either the sun becomes weaker or more energy is reflected back out before it can reach these levels of the atmosphere.

Now given those two ideas, we can form some hypotheses.

1. The sun got weaker for that period of time.
2. It was cloudier all over the globe, increasing Earth's albedo.
3. Chemicals that reflect the heat from the sun are present, increasing the albedo.
4. Co2 levels dropped.

You can also form hypotheses for each of the combinations of those and any others you come up with.


1. Nope, the sun's output was rising at the time, took a dip in the 50s, popped back up to late 40s levels, which were still higher than any levels in the last couple hundred years. Put that on the back burner for now.


2. Cloudier, maybe. There would have to be an explanation for why the sky would blanket out the sun enough to cause that while it's the strongest it's been in hundreds of years. Maybe a volcano erupted.
Well one did. Now you have to check if other volcanic eruptions had the same effect. They did, but they did in different ways, sometimes they made the earth warmer. So confusing.

3. Chemicals reflecting it back out. What could cause such an increase in these chemicals? Maybe a volcano erupted, releasing dust to block the sun and aerosols into the atmosphere. Aerosols reflect it back to space, shit, yeah, but what about the times that eruptions warm the earth? It may be the types or frequency or strength, or all three. Only 1 way to find out right? Start making hypotheses.

4. CO2 levels. Did they drop a bit during that period. Why would that be? Maybe more was absorbed, dissolved, eaten. What could cause these 3 things to happen?
Cooler temps ,meaning more CO2 dissolved in the oceans, less CO2 escaping?
More plants?

Oh the possibilities.



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Response to Iron Condor (Reply #6)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 04:40 PM

9. Want to hear something funny?

I agree with you. The empirical data does not support the global warming alarmists. It supports the views of rational people that recognize that manmade CO2 is causing the planet to warm up, but not nearly as quickly as the alarmists have been telling us.

Regardless, there is no excuse for smart people to post examples of weather and claim they prove something about climate.

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Response to Iron Condor (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 09:08 AM

11. Yesterday I had to shovel knee high fresh global warming from my driveway.

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