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Sun Mar 3, 2019, 04:17 AM

There Is No Significant Global Warming




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Reply There Is No Significant Global Warming (Original post)
Iron Condor Mar 3 OP
New Deal Democrat Mar 3 #1
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quad489 Mar 3 #4
oflguy Mar 3 #5
New Deal Democrat Mar 3 #9
oflguy Mar 3 #11
New Deal Democrat Mar 4 #19
SatansSon666 Mar 5 #35
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oflguy Mar 5 #49
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oflguy Mar 5 #54
Jack Burton Mar 3 #7
New Deal Democrat Mar 3 #8
Jack Burton Mar 3 #10
New Deal Democrat Mar 4 #21
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oflguy Mar 3 #12
Transcendence Mar 4 #16
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Iron Condor Mar 3 #13
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oflguy Mar 4 #31
Charlie Mike Mar 4 #18
oflguy Mar 4 #32
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SatansSon666 Mar 4 #20
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Response to Iron Condor (Original post)

Sun Mar 3, 2019, 05:42 AM

1. I just wasted 10 minutes of my life that I'll never get back.

John Coleman was a TV weatherman. He did not hold a degree in climatology or any related discipline, nor did he study or conduct any research in that field; he merely parroted arguments advanced by others. Moreover, much of Coleman’s criticism of climate change dealt with impugning the motives of those engaged in that discipline rather than refuting the science behind their work.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/weather-or-not/

Critics of Coleman who do study and work in the field of climate science have produced detailed line-by-line rebuttals of his arguments against global warming.

http://www.uscentrist.org/platform/positions/environment/context-environment/john_coleman/the-amazing-story-behind-the-global-warming-scam

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Response to New Deal Democrat (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 3, 2019, 07:47 AM

2. Id take his word on the matter than someone like AOC

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Response to Solesurvivor (Reply #2)

Sun Mar 3, 2019, 07:52 AM

4. Yep, A0C with her economics degree thinks paying the ''unwilling to work'' crowd is intelligence....

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Response to New Deal Democrat (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 3, 2019, 08:44 AM

5. You didn't even spend ten minutes watching it, don't bullshit us

Last edited Sun Mar 3, 2019, 09:20 AM - Edit history (1)

Have a little courage for a change and watch it.


This man has forgotten more about meteorology, climate and global warming than you and all your fellow forum global warmers put together know and will ever will know.

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Response to oflguy (Reply #5)

Sun Mar 3, 2019, 05:33 PM

9. Get a clue.

It doesn't take courage to waste thirty six minutes and eight seconds watching this explosion of ignorance. It takes sheer idiocy. Stop embarrassing yourself.

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Response to New Deal Democrat (Reply #9)

Sun Mar 3, 2019, 05:42 PM

11. Its ok, I don't blame you personally

All liberals suffer from the same cowardice. They are scared to death they will learn something that proves they are wrong.


Its quite common among liberals. I understand.

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Response to oflguy (Reply #11)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 03:12 PM

19. Of course you do.

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Response to oflguy (Reply #11)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 05:06 AM

35. Did you read the rebuttals?

Or are you scared to learn something?

Right off the bat he confuses weather and climate. Right of the fucking bat.
I should have stopped there, but curiosity.

We had a very cold winter, so how can it be the hottest year on record?

Lmfao.
Dude's a loon.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #35)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 08:29 AM

36. He didn't confuse a damn thing

Did you read my rebuttal to his rebuttal?

Try watching the video silly

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Response to oflguy (Reply #36)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 08:32 AM

38. Oh I watched it.

He says it's ridiculous to say it's the warmest year when winter was very cold.
He says it right at the start.
He clearly can't differentiate between the two.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #38)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 08:35 AM

40. So you think 2013 was the warmest year ever?

What did a group from NASA do?

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Response to oflguy (Reply #40)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 08:41 AM

41. I don't know what the warmest year was.

I don't have to know to know that he thinks a cold winter in Ohio means the global climate isn't warming.
He fucking blew it in the first 5 minutes.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #41)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 08:45 AM

42. And NASA?

It was cold across the United States, not just Ohio He didn't mention a thing about Ohio. You didn't watch shit

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Response to oflguy (Reply #42)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 08:52 AM

44. Yes, but he used his brother in Ohio as well.

Because he wasn't gonna come in from shoveling the snow to talk to a guy in California.

I watched it, he said all across America across first, but last time I checked, the globe was bigger than the United States.

He fucked up.
Right off the bat.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #44)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 08:54 AM

45. NASA?

You watched the first minute. I'm impressed

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Response to oflguy (Reply #45)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 08:58 AM

48. Nope watched it all.

I proved that in my other reply.

You can say I didn't watch it all you want if it makes you feel better.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #48)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 09:00 AM

49. You are so amusing

You watched one minute. That's what you proved. You are so scared to watch it, you'd rather argue a stupid argument than watch it

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Response to oflguy (Reply #49)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 09:05 AM

52. I fucking watched it.

Not gonna bother with this anymore.
If all you can say is I didn't watch it then you have nothing of value to consider.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #52)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 09:09 AM

54. Curses, foiled again........

I love this forum

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Response to New Deal Democrat (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 3, 2019, 10:03 AM

7. Doomer playbook #4

If someone casts doubt on the global warming hoax then impugn their reputation, credentials, education, or motivation (q.v. Saul Alinksky). However, if someone agrees with the global warming hoax then reputation, credentials, education, or motivation have no bearing on the opinion.

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Response to Jack Burton (Reply #7)

Sun Mar 3, 2019, 05:25 PM

8. The earth is flat.

Critics of Coleman who do study and work in the field of climate science have produced detailed line-by-line rebuttals of his arguments against global warming.

I furnished a link to that upthread. Your TV weather man's tripe has been resoundingly taken apart by those who have actual credibility. Challenging one's reputation and motives is the clear domain of climate change denialists just like you - particularly when you have nothing else to say except the earth is flat and/or gravity is just a theory.

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Response to New Deal Democrat (Reply #8)

Sun Mar 3, 2019, 05:41 PM

10. I read your linked article.

It is a big pile of doomer propaganda and ad hominem attacks. Your link relies mainly upon insinuation, inference and emotional arguments to claim the global warming hoax has scientific merit. Mostly it is a lot of doomer projection.

What few references your linked article cites are bogus/biased sites like old links to Obama's propaganda commie EPA talking points, and sites like ossfoundation.us (a group founded by the climate science paragon John P. Reisman: Who's expertise is in analysis and system development. Leading a dual career path between systems analysis and business including media production, schema design and advisory functions for businesses, governments, and institutions. Foundation work is focused on critical global issues.) Yeah. Very convincing.

You'll have to do better than that if you want to keep the hoax alive.

p.s. Who boy! 14°F high today. Already shoveled fresh global warming in the driveway once. Will have to again tomorrow too.

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Response to Jack Burton (Reply #10)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 03:14 PM

21. I linked two articles.

If you learn to count, maybe you'll realize the earth isn't flat after all.

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Response to New Deal Democrat (Reply #21)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 04:39 PM

24. If you weren't too busy coming up with personal insults

you'd realize that your previous post specifically referenced only one of your linked articles that "produced detailed line-by-line rebuttals of his arguments against global warming".


Learn to count. Then you can learn to code.

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Response to Jack Burton (Reply #24)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 05:17 PM

25. I said I'd furnished *uh* link to support my claim

I didn't in any way imply that I had only furnished one link. And I was pretty descriptive about what the associated article would contain. Holy cow, there were only two links. How hard could it be on Flat Planet Earth to figure out which one of them "...produced detailed line-by-line rebuttals of his arguments against global warming?" I used verbiage to be found there.

Here, let me simplify this for you: Left click on this funny looking text immediately below. There is only one of them (they are called links) this time. It leads to a compelling argument that dismantles your climate change denial in general, as well as the specific fantasies of your silly TV weather man.

http://www.uscentrist.org/platform/positions/environment/context-environment/john_coleman/the-amazing-story-behind-the-global-warming-scam

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Response to New Deal Democrat (Reply #8)

Sun Mar 3, 2019, 05:45 PM

12. "Critics of Coleman who do study and work in the field of climate science have produced detailed

line-by-line rebuttals of his arguments against global warming."

Can you give us an example?

(I didn't think so)

You don't know what the video is about, that is why. The funny part is you'll never know, too.


Fear is a terrible thing.

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Response to oflguy (Reply #12)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 08:53 AM

16. Funny to see YOU asking for links to prove a point

...given that you fail to do the same on a regular basis.

In any case, here you go:

http://ossfoundation.us/projects/environment/global-warming/myths/john-coleman

http://www.uscentrist.org/platform/positions/environment/context-environment/john_coleman/the-amazing-story-behind-the-global-warming-scam

By the way, I would categorize myself as a Lukewarmer. I share Coleman's view that money has corrupted the science in many ways, and that catastrophic global warming is largely the invention of a small number of people conducting bad science. However, to go to the other extreme and say that there is no man-made global warming at all is equally bad science. It is a fact that human activity has raised CO2 levels, and it is a fact that increasing CO2 by itself causes temperature increases. The difficulty lies in sorting out all of the complex interactions increasing CO2 results in and determining what the final, sum total impact will be. An accurate answer to that question is far from settled science.

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Response to Transcendence (Reply #16)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 09:34 AM

17. Here is a refutation of your refutation

Carbon Dioxide is not a pollutant. It is a natural element and the most important component for plant growth there is.

We continue to have record setting winters. If runaway global warming is happening, this sure contradicts it.

The goal of the UN is to make this world socialist. Our standard of living in this country oppresses that goal

Roger Revelle reversed his opinion on global warming toward the end of his life. He began to warn that global warming was questionable at best. So, the man that raised the flag on global warming not only took it down, but raised another one refuting his original theory.

42 billion dollars a year granted to promote global warming is indeed a powerful stimulus to keep a false agenda going.

The global warming climate models, which use increases in CO2, have failed miserably in their predictions of global warming. Instead of revising their models, global warmers have scrambled to explain off the failed predictions with new theories about “hidden heat.” It is pretty sad, actually.

“The IPCC is one of the most conservative, vetted assessments of climate science in the entire world.”

What a joke. The IPCC is a bunch of socialists intent on destroying capitalism.

The media is 50% conservative? That is a bold-faced lie.

There is no need to try to prove Algore is a fool. He proved it himself.

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Response to oflguy (Reply #17)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 03:56 PM

22. Response

Carbon Dioxide is not a pollutant. It is a natural element and the most important component for plant growth there is.

Agreed

We continue to have record setting winters. If runaway global warming is happening, this sure contradicts it.

True only if you cherry pick small regions of the globe, false if you look at the global record

The goal of the UN is to make this world socialist. Our standard of living in this country oppresses that goal

Certainly the goal of some it members, but not all

Roger Revelle reversed his opinion on global warming toward the end of his life. He began to warn that global warming was questionable at best. So, the man that raised the flag on global warming not only took it down, but raised another one refuting his original theory.

Partially agree. More accurate description here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Revelle

42 billion dollars a year granted to promote global warming is indeed a powerful stimulus to keep a false agenda going.

Agreed

The global warming climate models, which use increases in CO2, have failed miserably in their predictions of global warming. Instead of revising their models, global warmers have scrambled to explain off the failed predictions with new theories about “hidden heat.” It is pretty sad, actually.

Agreed

“The IPCC is one of the most conservative, vetted assessments of climate science in the entire world.”

Agree that this is an inaccurate description

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Response to Transcendence (Reply #22)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 04:35 PM

23. You say the global record indicates no global warming

I don’t call eleven one hundredths of one degree over ten years global warming.

You say the goal of the UN to destroy capitalism is only true of some it members, but not all. Let’s weigh in on what the UN official in charge of the global warming agenda had to say while she held the post of Executive Secretary of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC).



U.N. Official Admits Global Warming Agenda Is Really About Destroying Capitalism

A shocking statement was made by a United Nations official Christiana Figueres at a news conference in Brussels.

Figueres admitted that the Global Warming conspiracy set by the U.N.’s Framework Convention on Climate Change, of which she is the executive secretary, has a goal not of environmental activists is not to save the world from ecological calamity, but to destroy capitalism. She said very casually:
“This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution.”
She even restated that goal ensuring it was not a mistake:
“This is probably the most difficult task we have ever given ourselves, which is to intentionally transform the economic development model for the first time in human history.”

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-03/un-official-admits-global-warming-agenda-really-about-destroying-capitalism

There is a reason Algore denounced Roger Revelle as “senile.” Wiki can be edited by anybody.

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Response to oflguy (Reply #23)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 07:29 PM

26. Congratulations

You just demonstrated that within the UN there is one individual from one country wants to use climate change as an excuse to destroy Capitalism. Go you.

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Response to Transcendence (Reply #26)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 07:41 PM

27. Try taking your head out of the sand

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Response to oflguy (Reply #27)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 08:09 PM

30. Try learning how to use Google

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Response to Transcendence (Reply #26)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 07:43 PM

28. 98% of the U.N. wants to destroy capitalism.

That is why the democrats love it so much.

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Response to Jack Burton (Reply #28)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 08:08 PM

29. Wow

Another anonymous poster writing stuff...

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Response to New Deal Democrat (Reply #8)

Sun Mar 3, 2019, 10:39 PM

13. "The science is settled"


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Response to Iron Condor (Reply #13)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 12:02 AM

14. Denial Man Unfazed by Cold Reality of Climate Change

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Response to New Deal Democrat (Reply #14)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 03:17 AM

15. Climate change is normal. Been doing it for thousands and millions of years.





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Response to New Deal Democrat (Reply #14)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 08:28 PM

31. If you tell them you was a global warmer

Your grandchildren will be ashamed of you

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Response to New Deal Democrat (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 01:19 PM

18. I think it's safe to say you've wasted a lot more than 10 minutes of your life.

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Response to Charlie Mike (Reply #18)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 08:28 PM

32. LOL

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Response to Iron Condor (Original post)

Sun Mar 3, 2019, 07:48 AM

3. Global Warming has been happening for at least thousands of years when glaciers advanced and then...

...retreated thus forming the great lakes region. It's totally idiotic to believe as the world population keeps rapidly increasing, especially in 3rd world areas where clear cutting forests & open burn cooking is the norm, that the US regressing back to the 1800's by outlawing all forms of combustion will halt the Earth from warming 1C over next 100 yrs.

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Response to Iron Condor (Original post)

Sun Mar 3, 2019, 09:07 AM

6. Sadly, global warmers in the forum don't have the guts to watch this video

They are scared to death they might learn something

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Response to Iron Condor (Original post)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 03:13 PM

20. I thought there was none at all.

Oh well.

That video didn't contain one piece of evidence of anything.
Scientists want funding for research? No way. I suppose he just reported on the weather for free.
Red herrings and strawmen throughout.
He didn't prove a damn thing and here I hoped there would be something to consider. Conspiracy crap.
Shows articles, yaps about Al Gore.
Throws a shout-out to Anthony Watts.
Waste of time.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #20)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 08:30 PM

33. You should watch it

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Response to oflguy (Reply #33)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 04:44 AM

34. I did.

What evidence is in it?
He does no research, he has nothing.

Waste of time.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #34)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 08:30 AM

37. You didn't watch a damn thing

You're scared to

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Response to oflguy (Reply #37)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 08:35 AM

39. Then how the fuck do I know what he said?

How do I know he shouts out to Watts near the end. How do I know he brings up Al Gore over and over again.

He shows some charts and parrots what other loons are saying.

He does no research of his own, he fucks up global climate and local weather.

I watched it. Not impressed.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #39)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 08:48 AM

43. You read the rebuttal

What did Dr. Singer attribute the lack of global warming to?

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Response to oflguy (Reply #43)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 08:54 AM

46. I didn't read the rebuttal.

Never said I did.
Don't have to.
It debunks itself.
If you want to hold this guy up on a pedestal as some climate genius go right ahead.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #46)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 08:57 AM

47. I rest my case

You watched the first minute. How stupid do you think everybody is?

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Response to oflguy (Reply #47)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 09:03 AM

50. Listen.

I know what he said.
I know what he said at the beginning, the middle and the end.
I proved that by knowing he shouts out to "his good friend Anthony Watts" towards the end.
I know he brings up a gore several times and talks about university and shows old pics of Al Gore.
He shows TV interviews and other shit.
Parrots what other loons are saying.

You can't reconcile that he's a fraud and a loon so you have to say I didn't watch it.

Not impressed.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #50)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 09:04 AM

51. If you watched it, you could answer my two questions

Your gig is up

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Response to oflguy (Reply #51)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 09:07 AM

53. The guy is a loon.

I have no interest in his video anymore than I took a half hour out of my day to watch it, only to be told that I didn't watch it over and over again.
Fuck your questions.
If you had taken me for my word maybe I'd have some discourse with you and answer your questions, but you are dishonest and saying I'm scared to watch something.
There is nothing in it worth anything.
It's all the same old debunked bullshit.

Rest your fucking case on that.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #53)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 09:10 AM

55. We had a phrase in 3rd grade

Fraidy Cat

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Response to oflguy (Reply #55)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 09:16 AM

56. 3rd grade is about that guys understanding of climate and weather.

So you might be onto something there.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #56)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 09:29 AM

57. How would you know?

Oh yeah, I forgot. You read the rebuttal

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Response to oflguy (Reply #57)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 09:37 AM

58. If you had paid attention to the video, you'd know how I know.

if you hadn't basically called me a liar several times I'd explain it to you, but you don't deserve an explanation. You don't deserve fuck all.
So keep trotting out your experts that never did a second of research or hold any degrees in any field of climate science and pretend you know more than everyone else. We're all very fucking impressed.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #58)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 10:08 AM

59. You know the answers, but you won't tell us because its a secret

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Response to oflguy (Reply #59)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 10:13 AM

60. You aren't worth the time and effort oflguy.

You have no clear understanding of any of it.
Nothing I can tell you will make you understand any of it.
You just don't have it in you.
It's become part of your identity now and you'll never let it go.

You are the one that is scared. It's absolutely obvious to everyone.
Now go use some formulas that scientists figured out for you and calculate some heat loads.
Leave the research to the real scientists.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #60)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 10:19 AM

61. And there it is !!! I've been waiting for it.

You won't watch the video because I'm not worth it.

I knew you would eventually say it.

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Response to oflguy (Reply #61)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 10:59 AM

62. Doomers are not allowed to view heretical material.

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Response to Jack Burton (Reply #62)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 11:23 AM

64. I'm not a doomer and you won't find a post here

Where I have ever claimed man-made anything or that were all doomed.
I simply point out ridiculous pseudoscience.

This site has it is spades.

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Response to oflguy (Reply #61)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 11:21 AM

63. Quite the delusion you are holding onto there.

Stop the bullshit.

I know it makes you felt better to think I didn't watch it, but I've shown several times that I have by telling you things he said or showed at different stages of the video.
I'm not gonna do a minute by minute for you and I'm certainly not watching it again.
So play your little game all you want, you are only fooling yourself.

Calling me a liar looks far worse for you than it does for me.

What I meant was you aren't worth the time to try to explain something to.
It took you 3 months to understand that watts aren't units of heat. I'm not even sure if you really understand that yet, but I'm rooting for you.


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