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Mon Mar 18, 2019, 04:54 PM

Insect populations rapid decline alarming

The first global review of reports of insect population decline confirmed what researchers have feared for a while – that the loss, rather than just regional, is in fact worldwide. Around 41 percent of all insect species have seen a decline in the last 10 years, the study said. By weight, insects are dying off at a rate of 2.5 percent per year, and have been for some time – which would mean complete disappearance within a century.

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The dire evidence aligns with earlier studies. One found a 76 percent decrease in flying insects over just a few decades in German nature preserves. Another study, which returned to the Puerto Rican rain forest after 40 years, found almost no butterflies, and far fewer birds. Moths, grasshoppers and spiders were disappearing, too; the number of frogs and birds was cut in half.

The decline of non-insect species shows how interconnected these ecosystems are – it is impossible to lose a component as essential as insects and not see a change in the lives of other, dependent species.

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The latest study says changes in agriculture and land use is to blame, as well as climate change. Those factors have led to habitat loss, the widespread use of synthetic pesticides and fertilizers, and increasingly inhospitable temperatures in the tropics.

https://www.pressherald.com/2019/03/18/our-view-insect-populations-rapid-decline-alarming/

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orson Mar 2019 OP
MumblyPeg Mar 2019 #1
Cold Warrior Mar 2019 #2
D26-15 Mar 2019 #3
nolidad Mar 2019 #4
orson Mar 2019 #9
oflguy Mar 2019 #13
nolidad Mar 2019 #14
GoodKraic Mar 2019 #5
Jack Burton Mar 2019 #6
orson Mar 2019 #8
Jack Burton Mar 2019 #10
orson Mar 2019 #12
oflguy Mar 2019 #7
Jack Burton Mar 2019 #11

Response to orson (Original post)

Mon Mar 18, 2019, 05:09 PM

1. man, why do we have to listen to these false alarms constantly... who generates this stuff?

I mean, honeybees were supposedly going extinct 2 years ago as well, that turned out to be a lie too.
man is causing the weather to change, and now the insects are all going to die. the polar bears are starving and drowning... all bullshit.
no one listens to these people anymore

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Response to MumblyPeg (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 18, 2019, 05:14 PM

2. Forget about it, Dave!!

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Response to MumblyPeg (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 18, 2019, 05:17 PM

3. "no one listens to these people anymore"

It seems that orson is gullible enough to listen.

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Response to orson (Original post)

Mon Mar 18, 2019, 05:33 PM

4. Why aren't they evolving????

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Response to nolidad (Reply #4)

Mon Mar 18, 2019, 11:23 PM

9. Extinction is how evolution works

Adapt or die.

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Response to orson (Reply #9)

Tue Mar 19, 2019, 12:12 PM

13. Wrong, the theory of evolution is based on adaptation to conditions

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Response to orson (Reply #9)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 10:14 AM

14. So all these secularists are trying ot stop evolution!!!!!

silly scientists.

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Response to orson (Original post)

Mon Mar 18, 2019, 06:12 PM

5. So basically entomologists are looking to get that

Global warming funding.

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Response to orson (Original post)

Mon Mar 18, 2019, 09:47 PM

6. More alarmist claptrap.

The whales were going to be extinct by 1990.
The Amazon rain forest was going to be gone by 1980.
The arctic ice free by 2013.
NYC and Miami underwater by 2000.
Polar bears extinct.
50 million environmental refugees by 2010.
No snow by 2010.
No oil by 1980.
Multiple Class 5 hurricanes like Katrina hitting the U.S. every year.
Mass starvation and no way earth's population can exceed 7Billion by 1980.
80% of all the species of living animals will be extinct by 1995.
Sunlight reaching the planet will decrease by 50% by 1985.
Due to starvation, England will not exist in the year 2000
All important animal life in the sea will be extinct by 1979.


http://www.alienbasecamp.com/agw/quotes.htm
124 years of Failed Climate and Environmental Predictions




Doomers will be doomers. It is best to ignore them and their Malthusian apocalyptic fantasies. They are completely fucking insane.

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Response to Jack Burton (Reply #6)

Mon Mar 18, 2019, 11:19 PM

8. I'll put you down as a skeptic

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Response to orson (Reply #8)

Tue Mar 19, 2019, 09:50 AM

10. That's a fair statement.

At what point will you become a skeptic? You seem like an intelligent person. Do you see the litany of failed alarmist predictions to be a problem? I find the endless alarmist spin from every sector, injected into every subject, every issue, to be suffocating.

Climate has ceased to be a scientific subject and is now a political issue. Until such time climate can be discussed with dispassionate objectivity instead of "the sky is falling" alarmist hysterics, no substantive movement either way will happen.

If you want to say sea level rose four inches in the last 100 years okay. But stop telling me the world will end in 12 years because of it. Hurricane Katrina in 2005 was a very destructive event. But stop telling me it is proof of global warming and that we are going to be hit by several equally or more destructive class 5 hurricane each and every year going forward. If you want to say a change in average temperature will cause crop growing regions to shift a few hundred miles north/south okay. But stop telling me the world will end and nobody will every grow food again.

The scientific community has done itself a massive disservice by not coming out in force and loudly criticizing the alarmist claptrap in the news, politics, movies, tv, press, social media, etc. Silence is tacit approval. And I think the science community promotes the alarmism for selfish reasons: to virtue signal, to get more funding, to keep a stream of money turned on to fund their career.
Collectivists have latched onto this issue as a primary means to promote large, powerful, centralized, world government where they will be in charge. Their thirst for power and control is so transparent. The alarmism is so childish and transparent. The religious like vehemence of the alarmists is so hateful and off-putting. At this point I see little reason to not use the same tactics back at the alarmists.

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Response to Jack Burton (Reply #10)

Tue Mar 19, 2019, 11:24 AM

12. What I see

is that the reality is outrunning the predictions. That 12 year trope is based on the idea that the window is closing on our chance to mitigate the damage. I think that window has pretty much closed already.

Despite all the alarmist rhetoric we aren't actually doing much of anything to change the outcomes. The Clinton/Gore administration was our last real opportunity and they punted. The carbon we dump into the air is still increasing every year, as it has throughout my long life. We can't get off it without collapsing the global economy. Anyone who says otherwise is either lying or deluded.

We're in a bind. The lives of 8 billion people depend on continuing as we are and if we go on temps will increase 4 or 5 degrees C by the end of the century. At that point collectivization will be the least of our worries.

My posts around this subject are strictly informational. I'm not expecting to change anyone's mind. I'm not debating the subject. People can believe whatever they like. But they can't say they weren't told.

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Response to orson (Original post)

Mon Mar 18, 2019, 10:47 PM

7. "complete disappearance within a century"

Not a problem orson. We only have a little over 11 years left.

After we are all gone, the insects will thrive.

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Response to oflguy (Reply #7)

Tue Mar 19, 2019, 09:55 AM

11. No way any life will survive.

The entire planet will explode like a giant CO2 bomb. The prophet Ocasisio-Cortez has foreseen it.

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