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Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:46 AM

Whale Evolution Dives to New Low Share Email Facebook Twitter google_plus By Brian Thomas and Jeffre

FOR MICROMETER, WHO POSTED ALINK TO THIS CREATURE EARLIER

By Brian Thomas and Jeffrey Tomkins

The story of whale evolution is one of the most ridiculous fables of scientifically unsupported speculation ever perpetrated on the public. And now, with the recent discovery of a Peruvian fossil of a clearly four-legged land animal named Peregocetus being called “An Amphibious Whale,” the evolutionary myth has just dived to a new low.1

The newly found fossil creature may have been amphibious because it appears to possibly have had webbed feet for swimming. It could definitely walk on land and possibly also swim in water, like beavers and otters. If all it takes is an amphibious capability to earn the name whale, then why not call otters, muskrats, and beavers “whales,” too?

According to the grand evolutionary story, whales evolved from a dog-like land creature. As the whale of a tale goes, over millions of years, the size of these evolving creatures grew enormously and finally resulted in the largest animals ever seen on Earth—the baleen whales that reach 100 feet in length.

Besides the enormous differences in size and specializations—filter feeding versus toothed whales—many designs are only found in whales.2-5 To name a few, whales have specialized bodily features that allow for unique breathing, swimming, deep diving, reproduction, echolocation, communication, specialized feeding, and many other novel traits not found in any other type of sea or land creature.

From a paleontological perspective, whale evolution still lacks its most critical need: evidence. Evolutionary researchers have not yet reached consensus on any fossil or living creature as having intermediate features between a whale and a land creature (including semi-aquatic creatures like otters). The Current Biology report described anatomical features used to bin Peregocetus into a man-made category of pre-whales. This process of inventing evolutionary categories helps make the wacky concept of legged whales easier to swallow.

In this new research, the authors fully acknowledge that the creature walked on land and even had small hooves. They said, “the retention of small hooves with a flat anteroventral tip at fingers and toes indicate that Peregocetus was still capable of standing and even walking on land.”1 Despite the fact that the creature had hooves, the authors speculated that its feet were webbed and it swam like an otter. No soft tissue preservation to indicate webbing was found, but the bone structure of the feet could have allowed for it.

Much of the skeleton was missing, including the entire skull above the lower jaw. Even the latter section of the creature’s tail was completely absent, yet this didn’t prevent evolutionary artists from adding an imaginary small whale-like fluke in their graphic reconstructions!

The features of the fossil that supposedly indicated a whale ancestry were minor similarities to other so-called “pre-whale” fossils called protocetids. The fossils in this evolutionary category were not pre-whales. Instead, they were even less aquatic and looked canine-like.

This evolutionary story needs what every evolutionary story needs: a missing link, a fossil with features that show transition from wolf to whale. A partial list includes re-plumbing nostrils, crafting fins, arranging new bones and muscles to fit them, designing new teeth, making a whole new reproductive system, and integrating new thermoregulation, eyes, ears, and pressure and temperature sensors.6 Like all other extinct or living amphibious mammals, Peregocetus has none of these required transitional features.

Overall, this new fossil’s news reduces to an evolutionary boondoggle accompanied by startlingly speculative imagination. As far as science can tell, whales have always been whales.

References
1. Lambert, O. et al. 2019. An Amphibious Whale from the Middle Eocene of Peru Reveals Early South Pacific Dispersal of Quadrupedal Cetaceans. Current Biology. 29: 1-8.
2. Wells, J. 2018. From Bears to Whales: A Difficult Transition. Evolution News and Science Today. Posted on evolutionnews.org July 17, 2018, accessed April 15, 2019.
3. Tomkins, J. and F. Sherwin. 2018. New Whale Fossil Harpoons Evolution. Creation Science Update. Posted on ICR.org June 22, 2012, accessed April 15, 2019.
4. Thomas, B. Organ Discovery Shows Why Whales Didn’t Evolve. Creation Science Update. Posted on ICR.org June 22, 2012, accessed May 30, 2018.
5. Guliuzza, R. G. 2016. Major Evolutionary Blunders: Are Whales and Evolution Joined at the Hip? Acts & Facts. 45 (3): 12-14.
6. Living Waters. Illustra Media. Segment shown on Youtube: Whale Evolution vs. Population Genetics. Posted on YouTube August 9, 2016, accessed April 15, 2019.

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Response to nolidad (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:50 AM

1. The first footnote is from a scientific publication.

https://www.cell.com/current-biology/pdfExtended/S0960-9822(19)30220-9

The rest of the footnotes are from non-scientific publications.

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Response to Micrometer (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 03:03 PM

2. Says you.

But tens of thousands of scientists would say you are ill informed. So according to you , a publication can only be scientific if it believes in the hypothesis of evolution?

Calling an animal with hooves a whale is what is non science!

Plus no bluuber
no blow hole
no fins
no fluke
no specialized organs that whales have

ONCE AGAIN THIS IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF EVOLUTIONISTS SEEING WHAT THEY BELIEVE INSTEAD OF BELIEVING WHAT THEY SEE!

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Response to nolidad (Reply #2)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 08:16 PM

5. Says anyone who knows what they are talking about.

That doesn't include you or any of your loons.

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Response to Micrometer (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 03:05 PM

3. Checked you link.

It does not exist- just like a walking whale!

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Response to nolidad (Reply #3)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 03:26 PM

4. I fixed the link:

An Amphibious Whale from the Middle Eocene of
Peru Reveals Early South Pacific Dispersal of
Quadrupedal Cetaceans

https://tinyurl.com/y4272yfz


Lambert et al. describe a new cetacean
from the middle Eocene of Peru,
characterized by retention of terrestrial
locomotion abilities and a significant
contribution of the tail for swimming. This
first indisputable quadrupedal whale from
the Pacific Ocean supports early
dispersal of amphibious cetaceans to the
New World across the South Atlantic.

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Response to nolidad (Reply #3)

Mon Apr 29, 2019, 08:44 AM

6. Would you be so kind and provide a link to the article in your OP?

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Response to Micrometer (Reply #6)

Mon Apr 29, 2019, 10:19 AM

7. It is probably something he has cut-and-pasted from ICR without citation

Providing a link to a real science article with any commentary indicating that his text was not from that article is disingenuous AT BEST.

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