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Sat May 11, 2019, 10:51 PM

Embarrassed Global Warming Alarmists Sink To Comedic Lows With 'Polar Vortex' Excuse

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2014/01/08/embarrassed-global-warming-alarmists-sink-to-comedic-lows-with-polar-vortex-excuse/#ea1fb8f729f7

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Reply Embarrassed Global Warming Alarmists Sink To Comedic Lows With 'Polar Vortex' Excuse (Original post)
oflguy May 2019 OP
Time May 2019 #1
oflguy May 2019 #2
Time May 2019 #4
It Guy May 2019 #19
SatansSon666 May 2019 #12
SatansSon666 May 2019 #3
Time May 2019 #5
SatansSon666 May 2019 #6
Time May 2019 #7
SatansSon666 May 2019 #9
Time May 2019 #11
SatansSon666 May 2019 #13
It Guy May 2019 #20
SatansSon666 May 2019 #23
oflguy May 2019 #8
SatansSon666 May 2019 #10
oflguy May 2019 #14
SatansSon666 May 2019 #15
oflguy May 2019 #16
oflguy May 2019 #17
SatansSon666 May 2019 #18
oflguy May 2019 #21
SatansSon666 May 2019 #25
specs May 2019 #22
SatansSon666 May 2019 #24

Response to oflguy (Original post)

Sat May 11, 2019, 10:59 PM

1. A stupid, non scientific question?

If global warming was causing the polar bears, the coral reefs along with the rest of the world to die for the past I don't know how many years,
Then global cooling must be ok right?
So why are we stopping a good thing?

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Response to Time (Reply #1)

Sun May 12, 2019, 03:26 AM

2. Its just the asinine IPCC scrambling for an excuse to explain their fuck up

The destruction of capitalism cannot be deterred.

They are a joke.

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Response to oflguy (Reply #2)

Sun May 12, 2019, 05:16 AM

4. I understand they are stupid, but they are pushing it onto other people.

Wasn't there a movie "The day after tomorrow" or something like that? It was built on the same theme.
It is this constant bombardment of liberal BS. It ruined, at least my TV watching experience.

Every show now has a female as head of whatever agency, a black guy, a handicap, some gay guy, some Muslim girl and some crazed white guy trying to shoot up some mosque or a synagogue.

It is getting annoying. We got the point libs, you don't like white Christian males. What's next? A Black transgender handicap Conan the Barbarian?

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Response to Time (Reply #4)

Sun May 12, 2019, 01:14 PM

19. You hit it on the nail head! I cant stand watching OTA TV anymore

simply because of what you stated. It’s like a never ending parade of off-white, zero talented victim wannabe entertainers/artists of various ilks.

I got a small view of Kimmel the other night and he had some black guy on his show, a rapper I presume. All the guy did was make utterances in Ebonics while clutching his genitals. Like he’s always ready to go to fuck anything straying by with two legs or four.

Thank god for laugh tracks.

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Response to Time (Reply #1)

Sun May 12, 2019, 06:14 AM

12. The polar vortex splitting or moving isn't global.

In thermodynamics, when a part of a system cools down, another part has to heat up and that's exactly what happens during these polar vortex events.
As the cold air is forced down due to a weakened jet stream, hot air is pushed up into other areas. Say in the USA for example, a blast of cold air is forced into Michigan, well, warm air is forced up on the west coast towards the jet stream.
It's a pretty simple concept that had been known for over a hundred years.

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Response to oflguy (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 05:14 AM

3. Another loon that doesn't know the difference between global and local.

Climate and weather.
Thermodynamics.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #3)

Sun May 12, 2019, 05:23 AM

5. Hey genius,

If you are so informed, can you please tel the rest of us why the name of the "movement" keeps changing?
Peak Oil, Ozone layer, Global warming, Climate change.
Please enlighten us with your superior knowledge as to why the World hasn't ended despite numerous "THE WORLD WILL BE OVER IN 10 YEARS!!!" warnings from moronic scientists?

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Response to Time (Reply #5)

Sun May 12, 2019, 05:32 AM

6. lmao.

Global warming never changed to climate change or peak oil didn't change to global warming or whatever other misinformed conclusions you make.

Find me a published paper that said we are going to die in 10 years. Not some loon's blog misinterpreting what the published paper says.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #6)

Sun May 12, 2019, 05:40 AM

7. So let me get this straight.

Are you saying that Al Gore was wrong with is global warming stuff? Or now we have global warming AND climate change?
AOC was wrong saying we will die in 12 years? (sorry I rounded up)

How come no one talks about global warming any more? Everything today is about climate change. What happened to global warming?

As to peak oil. Did we run out of oil? I filled up my car today with substance that was suspiciously petroleum based.

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Response to Time (Reply #7)

Sun May 12, 2019, 05:55 AM

9. Yes. Al Gore isn't a scientist.

Neither is Cortez.
I said show me a published peer-reviewed scientific paper that makes the claim that we'll be dead in 12 years or 10, 50.. whatever.

Climate change is what scientists call an obervation. They observed the climate was changing, then they had to figure out what can be the cause of their observation.
A warming globe certainly is a driving force behind a changing global climate. So since global warming is causing this particular change in climate, what can be driving the warming?
Well, turns out pumping gigatons of CO2 into the atmosphere allows it to retain more thermal energy than it can reject.
The molecular composition of CO2 allows short-wave radiation from the sun to pass through and reach the earth's surface, it doesn't, however, allow the long-wave reflected radiation to pass back out and absorbs it, changing the earth's energy budget as more energy stays than can be rejected by the thermodynamic system.
A thermodynamic system that can't reject as much thermal energy as it receives, heats up. That's a proven fact of thermodynamics and one you can test yourself with a pot of water on the stove.
Global warming was never changed to climate change or vice versa. Loons will tell you that it did, but they are two completly different things.

I don't know what peak oil had to do with this.
I remember people whining about it a decade or so ago. Never paid it any attention then, and I'm certainly not interested in it now.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #9)

Sun May 12, 2019, 06:13 AM

11. I agree with your response and I really think that people should try to keep

the Planet as clean as possible. I don't mean it in a snarky way, but who would want to shit in a middle of their living room and live with it.

But I do have a few questions
1. How does global warming cause global cooling, and if it somehow does how is it harmful since we have been told that it is the rise in ocean temps that kill the corals and things.

2. Sounds like even the scientists don't know. To me it's an easy way out. It's like saying there is a 50% chance of rain. If it rains they are right, if it doesn't they are right again.
If the scientific minds give us an answer that sounds plausible, trust me, even the conservatives will get behind it. But if they change their theory every time there is a bad weather, after a while they lose credibility.

3. How do you propose to get rid of all that pesky CO2? Ban plastic? Get rid of China that produces the most of it?
I just want to know

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Response to Time (Reply #11)

Sun May 12, 2019, 06:49 AM

13. I'll try to answer those.

1. When saying global warming you have to look at the entire globe. Not just the land and atmosphere. The oceans are the largest heat sink.
One possible scenario where a warming globe can actually cool the system down is with water. If the northern part of the oceans currents don't allow the warmer water to make its way up and more cool water is added it can have a cooling effect on the globe. The globe as a whole, that is. Since therodynamics states that if one part of a system cools, another part has to heat up, or both, the warmer water may get warmer but not enough to offset the cooling of the northern part of the oceans. As ice metals and goes into the ocean, it cools the ocean, so that change has already taken place. The cold ice warmed up and in effect cooled the ocean.
The warmer water is also going towards entropy like all other systems, trying to reach an equilibrium, so you'll have warmer and cooler parts in those areas but the area as a whole will still be heating up, regardless of the ocean temperatures hundreds of miles apart. You need a lot of energy to slow the systems natural tendency towards entropy. Can be thermal energy, kinetic energy from ocean currents moving the warmer and colder water around etc..
So while areas of the globe may seem to be cooling, the overall state of the entire globe is still retaining thermal energy that it can't reject and other areas will be hotter than normal, but you have to look at the whole globe, not just pieces of hemispheres or continents.

2. They don't change their theory about global climate due to weather events. The theory of climatic change forecasts some extreme weather events, some may be worse than projected, some may be milder, some may not happen, some may happen that weren't forecast. None of those things discredit the science or the theory itself. As time moves on and more observations and data are accumulated they are added to the theory, which will result in better forecasts.
The problem is, people read a blurb someone snipped off of a report and turn it into something it's not. Almost every time you trace it back to the original research, someone messed it up and make some claim like "NEW RESEARCH SAYS WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE IN 12 YEARS!!"
Then when you check the research it's just someone making shit up based off of a line or 2 from a research paper. As you read on, you see that that isn't what the research actually says.

3. Get rid of the CO2? Naturally it will take a long time. Earth's CO2 budget is out of whack. Natural events release CO2 and natural processes absorb CO2 as well. There is a balance that kept the PPM around the same range for thousands of years. Now that we have added all this "new" CO2 into the atmosphere, earth's natural processes can't keep up with it so it accumulates. Getting rid of it without using a lot of energy to convert it into something else won't happen for a long time.
The opposite is true with aerosols. Aerosols reflect the thermal radiation out before it can reach the surface or lower atmosphere. Well there's a solution, right? That will cool the earth. Sure, as long as there is no chlorine in the aerosols. Chlorine radicals destroy ozone. One choline radical can destroy hundreds of ozone molecules so those are out of the question. Sulfates as well, but if we add all these to cut back on solar irradiance, thus cooling the earth to offset the effects of CO2 forcing, what happens if we can't control that? We could freeze ourselves out, or we'd have to pump more CO2 in now to maintain our favorite temperature range. It's a no-win situation.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #13)

Sun May 12, 2019, 01:26 PM

20. Youre ASSuming that CO2 increase is a bad thing and to be avoided at all costs is bullshit.

Increases and decreases in CO2 by natural means has been going on throughout earth’s history. The more of it the better oxygen producing plants do.

The other fact that climate doomers ignore is that CO2 increase lags temperature increase therefore CO2 is not the forcing agent.

Go look it up.

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Response to It Guy (Reply #20)

Mon May 13, 2019, 04:49 AM

23. Well,

CO2 has lagged temperature during a particular warming because.....
CO2 didn't cause that warming.
This is all known. Once it did warm though, and more CO2 was released, the CO2 caught up and amplified the warming.
CO2s effect on the the earth's ability to reject energy has been known for 130 years and was verified 90 years ago.

Look it up.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #3)

Sun May 12, 2019, 05:42 AM

8. You are right

the IPCC is a bunch of loons

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Response to oflguy (Reply #8)

Sun May 12, 2019, 06:05 AM

10. I never said that.

Why do you have to make shit up?

The loon that wrote the article obviously doesn't understand any of those things and claims to have taken a course in it.
Yet, there he is, acting stupid and/or lying about science for clicks.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #10)

Sun May 12, 2019, 06:57 AM

14. I know you don't like to read the links but maybe you should

The story is about the IPCC and how loony they are.

READ THE STORY

I know you are going to respond and say you read it but that is a lie. You wouldn't be saying the shit you are saying if you had.

I know you like a book. This is not the first time you have tried to attack the author of an article like this.

The accusations you are making apply to the IPCC silly boi. He is telling us how they have changed their narrative about global warming based on weather.

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Response to oflguy (Reply #14)

Sun May 12, 2019, 07:03 AM

15. How about you read the research.

This loon is just using hyperbole to make a claim no research makes.
The polar vortex is easily explained by science and is in concordance with climate change theory.

You can keep on listening to bloggers all you want. They seem to be on your level.
Your global conspiracy shit is lame. Funny though, but lame indeed.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #15)

Sun May 12, 2019, 07:37 AM

16. So you agree with the IPCC?

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Response to oflguy (Reply #16)

Sun May 12, 2019, 10:49 AM

17. Ha Ha, you can't answer that because you didn't read the link

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Response to oflguy (Reply #17)

Sun May 12, 2019, 11:31 AM

18. The fuck you talking about?

I have 4 racks of ribs on the kettle and 3 game hens on the offset smoker.
Kinda busy..
Also preparing some lobster and salads and shit like that.
My mom and dad are up from Texas for mother's day, along with the inlaws and the wife's sister and nephew, so I'm preparing a feast.
Don't hold your breath. I know you are antsy and have fuck all else to do today, but I do.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #18)

Sun May 12, 2019, 02:21 PM

21. There are none so blind as those that won't see

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Response to oflguy (Reply #21)

Mon May 13, 2019, 05:41 AM

25. Nobody reads your conspiracy bullshit.

I just laugh at you now.
That's all you get.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #18)

Sun May 12, 2019, 04:01 PM

22. lol @ the racist npc for making a bouncy.

 

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Response to specs (Reply #22)

Mon May 13, 2019, 05:39 AM

24. How can an NPC make a bouncy?

Assuming by bouncy you mean a bullshit story. NPCs are programmed, they can't make stuff up.
It's funny when people try to use memes as an insult and don't understand what they mean.
Hilarity.

Racist?
Lmao.
Poor specs.

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