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Mon Sep 2, 2019, 01:54 PM

Amateurs Identify U.S. Spy Satellite Behind President Trump's Tweet

"Amateur satellite trackers say they believe an image tweeted by President Trump on Friday came from one of America's most advanced spy satellites.

The image almost certainly came from a satellite known as USA 224, according to Marco Langbroek, a satellite-tracker based in the Netherlands. The satellite was launched by the National Reconnaissance Office in 2011. Almost everything about it remains highly classified, but Langbroek says that based on its size and orbit, most observers believe USA 224 is one of America's multibillion-dollar KH-11 reconnaissance satellites.

"It's basically a very large telescope, not unlike the Hubble Space Telescope," Langbroek says. "But instead of looking up to the stars, it looks down to the earth's surface and makes very detailed images."

Trump Tweets Sensitive Surveillance Image Of Iran
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Trump Tweets Sensitive Surveillance Image Of Iran
The image tweeted by Trump on Friday, showing the aftermath of an accident at Iran's Imam Khomeini Space Center, was so detailed that some experts doubted whether it really could have come from a satellite high above the planet.

Iran had been preparing to launch a rocket known as the Safir with a small satellite aboard, but experts believe it exploded during fueling. The image showed crisp writing painted on the edge of the launch pad, the scorched truck that had been used to move the rocket, and other details."

https://www.npr.org/2019/09/02/756673481/amateurs-identify-u-s-spy-satellite-behind-president-trumps-tweet






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Reply Amateurs Identify U.S. Spy Satellite Behind President Trump's Tweet (Original post)
wonderwarthog Sep 2 OP
Da Mannn Sep 2 #1
wonderwarthog Sep 2 #2
Trevor Sep 2 #3
Solesurvivor Sep 2 #4
Trevor Sep 2 #5
wonderwarthog Sep 2 #8
Trevor Sep 2 #9
Currentsitguy Sep 6 #13
Trevor Sep 6 #14
Currentsitguy Sep 7 #15
Trevor Sep 7 #17
Currentsitguy Sep 8 #18
wonderwarthog Sep 7 #16
Fiendish Thingy-BC Sep 3 #12
oldenuff35 Sep 2 #6
wonderwarthog Sep 2 #7
oldenuff35 Sep 2 #10
wonderwarthog Sep 2 #11

Response to wonderwarthog (Original post)

Mon Sep 2, 2019, 01:59 PM

1. The President can declassify anything

so nyah

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Response to Da Mannn (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 2, 2019, 02:01 PM

2. Wasn't judging.


I think amateur sat watching is a cool hobby.

They have found enemy sats as well.

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Response to Da Mannn (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 2, 2019, 02:26 PM

3. But should he?

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Response to Trevor (Reply #3)

Mon Sep 2, 2019, 02:30 PM

4. Some times its a good thing to let your enemy get a glimpse of what you can do.

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Response to Solesurvivor (Reply #4)

Mon Sep 2, 2019, 03:24 PM

5. The intelligence community has always thought that it best that the enemy doesn't

know just where our capabilities start and end. It they knew these things they could take steps to thwart us. I don't know if Trump gave anything away this time. He probably doesn't know either.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #5)

Mon Sep 2, 2019, 04:27 PM

8. Agree 100%

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Response to wonderwarthog (Reply #8)

Mon Sep 2, 2019, 04:51 PM

9. Thank you

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Response to Trevor (Reply #5)

Fri Sep 6, 2019, 02:21 PM

13. If he is showing that

I'm sure we have far better.

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Response to Currentsitguy (Reply #13)

Fri Sep 6, 2019, 09:14 PM

14. Are you saying Trump must have checked first?

Let's say it wasn't our best. Couldn't it still be harmful for other nations to know our capabilities?

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Response to Trevor (Reply #14)

Sat Sep 7, 2019, 09:14 AM

15. Anyone with knowledge of optics

Already knows the resolving power of an orbital telescope. After all, the Hubble is just a modified Keyhole spy satellite. We've been advertising our capabilities for decades.

Digital Globe has civilian stuff up there that is of equal ability and is commercially available to any paying customer.

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Response to Currentsitguy (Reply #15)

Sat Sep 7, 2019, 04:14 PM

17. I don't think just anybody knows if this was harmful or not.

I googled around on it and all the articles agreed Trump's photo had great detail than was available from commercial satellites. There were commercial photos of the same incident and all they showed was a plume of smoke. I also read that back in 1984 somebody leaked a photo from the same class of satellite. So perhaps Trump didn't show anything new. The guy who leaked the 1984 photo did two years for it. NYT said an area in Trump's photo where classified markings usually are was blacked out.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #17)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 08:37 AM

18. I think the bottom line is

"We're watching".

It was very intentional.

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Response to Currentsitguy (Reply #13)

Sat Sep 7, 2019, 01:57 PM

16. True dat.


I don't think Trump is an idot, a mistake many of us on the other side make.

Michael Moore made the same observation, he compared Trump to Rommel, a brilliant tactician. The democrats, like Patton, need to study him, to "read his book".

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Response to Da Mannn (Reply #1)

Tue Sep 3, 2019, 12:43 PM

12. The question isnt can he but should he

This tweet revealed not only the US intelligence capability, but that of all 5 Eyes members.

A crystal example of Trump’s supremely poor judgement.

If Obama had done it, you’d be screaming from the rooftops.

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Response to wonderwarthog (Original post)

Mon Sep 2, 2019, 03:26 PM

6. Lets play pretend for a second or two, And no I claim no real knowledge.

Lets just say coincidences never set well with me.

I have no real knowledge of anything nor am I selling this as true.

So, if we had some kind of undetectable energy weapon on an orbiting platform and wanted to send Russia and Iran a message or even to just confuse them and get them wondering.

We could blow up missiles, their secret missiles, in both countries within about a month of each other.


I just have never believed in coincidences.

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #6)

Mon Sep 2, 2019, 04:26 PM

7. That was my thought as well.



It's hard to keep up with these things...



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Response to wonderwarthog (Reply #7)

Mon Sep 2, 2019, 04:55 PM

10. Sometimes things go by and I say, Hmmm, There is a lot to this story that I don't know.

And as I said, I do not have any real knowledge of the rest of this story.

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #10)

Mon Sep 2, 2019, 06:58 PM

11. Same here!

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