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Wed Jul 30, 2014, 12:17 PM

One more anti-EV FUD lie put to rest

We were all told this thing would never get big money investment partners.....

http://www.businessinsider.com/report-tesla-signs-deal-with-panasonic-on-gigafactory-2014-7

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Reply One more anti-EV FUD lie put to rest (Original post)
Jaime Espinoza Jul 2014 OP
mindwalker_2pi Jul 2014 #1
Starbux Jul 2014 #5
mindwalker_2pi Jul 2014 #7
Satan Jul 2014 #2
Jaime Espinoza Jul 2014 #3
nolens volens Jul 2014 #4
Starbux Jul 2014 #6

Response to Jaime Espinoza (Original post)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 12:18 PM

1. You know that

Business Insider is a left-wing, radical rag, don't you?


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Response to mindwalker_2pi (Reply #1)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 01:26 PM

5. criticism without specifics to back it up is just calumny. Rhetoric which is typical of the RWers

Right Wingers: Those who are bent so far to the right that Straight up and down looks 'left leaning' to them...

as Stephen Colbert has correctly observed: "Reality has a Liberal bias" {reality, in the sense of that which is based on and confirmed by observation and logical analysis of those observations}.

Conservatives consistently brand anything that doesn't confirm any of their doctrines as "biased" .. This sort of speech does NOT reflect knowledge but dogmatism. I guess this makes sense if you believe you are in possession of 'Divine Insight'.

the article from Business Insider reported on an agreement between Tesla and Panasonic for Panasonic to supply "... machinery to stock its first Gigafactory" ... This is a matter of fact --- unless you think BI (andor Nikkei.com) made it up. Is that what you are saying?



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Response to Starbux (Reply #5)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 02:38 PM

7. I was actually being sarcastic

Trying to head off the inevitable bullshit avalanche from the right about how anything that disagrees with their warped perceptions must be from libtards and such. That would, ostensibly, discredit your claim about debunking a right-wing myth.

But just admit it: we liberals are just out to take away their big cars, guns, and to force them to gay-marry!

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Response to Jaime Espinoza (Original post)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 12:22 PM

2. Not so sure that's a good thing

I'm totally down with Tesla, but I've got some Panasonic rechargeable batteries down here and those damn things are worthless. They won't hold a charge for more than an hour or two. Also had a Panasonic DVD player that stopped working for no good reason when it was approximately 1 year old. There was nothing visibly wrong with it. Went online and found at least 666 identical stories. Seems they are playing the old "planned obsolescence" game over at Panasonic these days, and that's not something you want happening to you if you're in the middle of nowhere, halfway between charging stations with your $100K car.

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Response to Satan (Reply #2)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 12:47 PM

3. They're already using Panasonic batteries

I'm at about 33k on them with nary a hint of range loss.

I did have a Panasonic stereo component as a kid that was junk though.

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Response to Jaime Espinoza (Original post)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 01:18 PM

4. Tesla

http://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-model-3-success-2014-7

Big money investor with money in the company and a vested interest in the success of the company.

The high end Tesla for wealthy folks makes some sense for boys who love their tech toys...the $35,000 soccer mom version might be a much more difficult sell as the less tech savvy masses are used to gas and go in vehicles with 400 mile ranges. By the time the first Model 3 rolls out in 2017, there might actually be a reasonable expectation that fuel cel vehicles will be more useful with longer ranges and fuel cells costing 1/3 rd of the battery cost of a Tesla.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2014/07/29/is-teslas-ev-the-future-of-autos-probably-not/

The technology is way cool, and the top of the line model is really cool, but a middle of the line sedan for the masses isn't cool from any manufacturer gas or electric. That changes the dynamic from the consumer perspective.

Tesla claims it will compete in the BMW 3/Mercedes C series range of low end luxury cars. Consumers like a 400 mile range even when they don't really need it. This will be an interesting roll-out and competition.

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Response to Jaime Espinoza (Original post)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 01:38 PM

6. Informative post! You know it's informative if RWers attack it - Why? because the facts are 'biased'




thanks!

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