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Thu Oct 20, 2016, 11:04 PM

Russians Can't Even Drive their Aircraft Carriers!



Look at that!

Ran right into the dock and bent their aircraft carrier!

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Reply Russians Can't Even Drive their Aircraft Carriers! (Original post)
wonderwarthog Oct 2016 OP
smalllivingeddy Oct 2016 #1
exindy Oct 2016 #3
wonderwarthog Oct 2016 #7
exindy Oct 2016 #9
wonderwarthog Oct 2016 #14
exindy Oct 2016 #15
Mouth of Chaos Oct 2016 #20
exindy Oct 2016 #24
wonderwarthog Oct 2016 #8
smalllivingeddy Oct 2016 #11
wonderwarthog Oct 2016 #12
Mouth of Chaos Oct 2016 #2
wonderwarthog Oct 2016 #6
Lil Marky Oct 2016 #17
Mouth of Chaos Oct 2016 #21
exindy Oct 2016 #4
wonderwarthog Oct 2016 #5
frankt8242 Oct 2016 #10
wonderwarthog Oct 2016 #13
frankt8242 Oct 2016 #18
wonderwarthog Oct 2016 #19
frankt8242 Oct 2016 #22
wonderwarthog Oct 2016 #23
frankt8242 Oct 2016 #25
wonderwarthog Oct 2016 #26
Lil Marky Oct 2016 #16
outside Oct 2016 #27
wonderwarthog Oct 2016 #28

Response to wonderwarthog (Original post)

Thu Oct 20, 2016, 11:50 PM

1. And they only have one aircraft carrier.

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Response to smalllivingeddy (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 21, 2016, 06:21 AM

3. Ever read any of James Burke?

The idea that there's an enslavement to stuff? Take a smart phone for example. People might think they control it but in reality it controls them. Interesting philosophy.

I'll bet on December 6, 1941 we had more battleships than any other country in the world also.

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Response to exindy (Reply #3)

Fri Oct 21, 2016, 07:13 AM

7. Interesting

How entrenched philosophy can become a liability in a fluid situation like war.

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Response to wonderwarthog (Reply #7)

Fri Oct 21, 2016, 08:55 AM

9. Nah, looking at it with too much focus.

Think more smart phone... which has nothing to do with war.

How often do people look at it? Does it change the way they live their life?

The tool designed to give them freedom from the mundane has become handcuffs.

If you want to do the aircraft carrier, ok. Does our reaction to world events dictate the reliance on the aircraft carrier or does the aircraft carrier influence our reaction to world events?

In any incident, have we built in an automatic delay in order to deploy?

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Response to exindy (Reply #9)

Fri Oct 21, 2016, 12:52 PM

14. Good analogy

I read once that is why we still have nuke capable aircraft - largely because they can be used for sabre rattling and still be recalled.

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Response to wonderwarthog (Reply #14)

Fri Oct 21, 2016, 01:03 PM

15. Watched Fail Safe instead of the debate.

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Response to exindy (Reply #3)

Fri Oct 21, 2016, 07:23 PM

20. Todays...

Generals and Admirals are always fighting the last war.

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Response to Mouth of Chaos (Reply #20)

Sat Oct 22, 2016, 04:30 AM

24. And the innovative generals and admirals

have to fight the generals and admirals from the last war.

But I guess that's true of everything. Took a long time to get desktop computers on the desktops.

Which leads into the way the current corporate culture has subverted revolutionary innovation.

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Response to smalllivingeddy (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 21, 2016, 07:15 AM

8. Be a shame

If something "happened" to it...


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Response to wonderwarthog (Reply #8)

Fri Oct 21, 2016, 09:42 AM

11. Do you suppose that

we can get the Russians to pay us to protect it?

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Response to smalllivingeddy (Reply #11)

Fri Oct 21, 2016, 12:47 PM

12. That would be great

Unless they paid us in vodka....

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Response to wonderwarthog (Original post)

Fri Oct 21, 2016, 03:44 AM

2. US Air Force...

...with US Army equipment. Humvees can cost from 160,000 to 220,000, as you can hear my brothers certainly are not surprised at the Quartermasters skills at securing loads. Funny stuff.

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Response to Mouth of Chaos (Reply #2)

Fri Oct 21, 2016, 07:04 AM

6. Thanks

Great clip!

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Response to Mouth of Chaos (Reply #2)

Fri Oct 21, 2016, 01:33 PM

17. I wonder how those looked afterward.

So at least three of them were toast... Oh well, just somewhere around half a million dollars.

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Response to Lil Marky (Reply #17)

Fri Oct 21, 2016, 07:32 PM

21. They make it sound...

...like this doesn't happen at all ....LOL...., DERP happens on every exercise.



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Response to wonderwarthog (Original post)

Fri Oct 21, 2016, 06:24 AM

4. Don't the brits use that design?

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Response to exindy (Reply #4)

Fri Oct 21, 2016, 07:03 AM

5. If so

I hope they are paid up on their insurance

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Response to wonderwarthog (Original post)

Fri Oct 21, 2016, 08:59 AM

10. having actually "driven" one on several occasions...

 

it ain't all that hard...
and that upswept deck is a good idea on a smaller model, without sufficient deck length to accomplish uncatapulted launches safely..I have seen instances where heavily weapons loaded "spads"("Korea" era single engine, prop driven fighter/bombers) actually got their landing gear wet on deck launches...scary..!!!
Especially from the "secondary con" station located at just below the very front portion of the deck...You actually watch the plane launch, and then dip DOWN towards the surface, while exercising full power to gain altitude...90 feet of altitude seemed like a very short distance under those circumstances..!!!
"Spad " pilots were the "gutsiest" of the lot. by a LONG RUN..!!!

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Response to frankt8242 (Reply #10)

Fri Oct 21, 2016, 12:49 PM

13. You got to see

Vietnam era "Sandies" carrier launched?
And actually got to DRIVE the carrier?

Holy moley!

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Response to wonderwarthog (Reply #13)

Fri Oct 21, 2016, 01:51 PM

18. Yeah...During "sea and anchor" detail....

 

My duty station was at the radar console right next to the "wheel', and I frequently "drove" in tight situations, such as the "floating bridge" at Bangor... we had exactly 50 feet of leeway on each side going through there, and even the slightest "screwup" would have done millions in damages... Looking back. I can't imagine HTF I ever pulled it off..!!!
And as far as the "launches", I saw literally hundreds...And sadly, several fewer landings...

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Response to frankt8242 (Reply #18)

Fri Oct 21, 2016, 06:50 PM

19. Thank you

For a great look into history, and for your highly honorable service to our nation.

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Response to wonderwarthog (Reply #19)

Fri Oct 21, 2016, 09:56 PM

22. Back then the only choice we had ..

 

Wasn't whether or not to "serve" only where..I was very fortunate to have "fallen into" a great tour on a great ship during "interesting times", with an opportunity to be "where the action" was happening...More luck than talent involved there...

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Response to frankt8242 (Reply #22)

Fri Oct 21, 2016, 10:29 PM

23. ...






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Response to wonderwarthog (Reply #23)

Sat Oct 22, 2016, 09:11 AM

25. I think that tail ID # NE was assigned to...

 

The USS Coral Sea during "Nam"..My ship, "The USS Constellation used NF, IIRC..

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Response to frankt8242 (Reply #25)

Sat Oct 22, 2016, 10:30 AM

26. Interesting details!

Friend of mine was with USAF S.O.G. in Thailand during the war.

He said some of the aircraft were painted black with no i.d., some were even special manufactured without serial numbers anywhere on the aircraft - had to have special crews to work on them!

On the SR - 71, sometimes different numbers would be put on opposite sides of the aircraft, to screw with anyone photographing.


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Response to wonderwarthog (Original post)

Fri Oct 21, 2016, 01:25 PM

16. haha!

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Response to wonderwarthog (Original post)

Sat Oct 22, 2016, 03:02 PM

27. That boat gets towed

by a tug boat most of the time and when it is running our subs can hear it from 10 miles away.

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Response to outside (Reply #27)

Sat Oct 22, 2016, 07:37 PM

28. I heard

It runs on vodka and beets.

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