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Sat Dec 12, 2015, 03:16 PM

Using Ecstasy to Cure PTSD?

Why do the shrinks always try to solve problems like this with damn drugs? Take another “magic pill” and get well.

It's what the doctors are turning our society into. No more personal responsibility. No more standing up to adversity.

It sickens me. There are much better ways that don't involve buzzing someone's mind with wonder stuff.

Read more @ http://america.aljazeera.com/watch/shows/america-tonight/articles/2015/12/11/mdma-ptsd-veterans-ecstasy.html

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Reply Using Ecstasy to Cure PTSD? (Original post)
sargentodiaz Dec 2015 OP
Fiendish Thingy-BC Dec 2015 #1
i verglas Jul 2016 #6
LaughingGull Dec 2015 #2
sargentodiaz Dec 2015 #4
Silent But Deadly Dec 2015 #3
summitbhc Jul 2016 #5
_eek Jul 2016 #7

Response to sargentodiaz (Original post)

Sat Dec 12, 2015, 03:43 PM

1. You clearly have no understanding of what PTSD is

"Standing up to adversity"?

The research on treating PTSD with ecstasy is in its infancy, with most studies counting their subjects in the few dozens, rather than thousands for typical drug trials.

EMDR is one evidence based treatment for PTSD.

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Response to Fiendish Thingy-BC (Reply #1)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 07:56 PM

6. I was offered EMDR as therapy for PTSD

 

I didn't like the sound of it. So - and this was a dozen years ago - I googled emdr voodoo because that was what it sounded like to me. Quite a number of other people had the same impression. These days, there are more search results refuting the "voodoo" assertion.

I just didn't really want to be "reprocessed". I just prefer cognitive approaches for myself.

Whether it is actually "effective" in a way that therapies not involving the voodoo aspect (eye movement) are not is still a subject of controversy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_movement_desensitization_and_reprocessing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_movement_desensitization_and_reprocessing#Controversy

I see no harm in testing drug-based therapies for any psychological disorder that interferes with individuals' lives.

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Response to sargentodiaz (Original post)

Sat Dec 12, 2015, 05:31 PM

2. Before they start trying to find new drugs to "cure" PTSD...

...they need to rein in the shrinks who are incorrectly diagnosing it.

PTSD results from a severe, traumatic event like combat, witnessing a murder, watching a family member get killed in an auto accident.

PTSD is not the correct diagnosis for sadness that occurs as a result of your dog dying, going through a long labor when having a baby, holding your elderly parent's hand as they die in the hospital, nor does it occur from losing your job.

I participate in a disability forum, where we help those trying to navigate the disability process. I have seen people come there with a PTSD diagnosis from these exact events, and want disability for it. It amazed me enough to research and find out that some in the psych community are actually using this diagnosis for these things. Others in the Psych community are up in arms about it, because it is diluting their research.

There is a difference between having to deal with the grief and sadness of life events, and dealing with going through a hardship.....and actually going through something extremely traumatic.

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Response to LaughingGull (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 14, 2015, 10:43 AM

4. Thank you very much for a great post!

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Response to sargentodiaz (Original post)

Mon Dec 14, 2015, 03:57 AM

3. Video on this topic

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Response to sargentodiaz (Original post)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 04:34 PM

5. PTSD can not be cured

 

PTSD cannot be cured. It can be treated but not cured. Trauma has a strong correlation with substance abuse and I've never heard of doctors prescribing ectasy for it. Here is an article discussing the correlation between PTSD and addiction - http://www.greatoaksrecovery.com/ptsd-addiction/

I agree, there are thousands of doctors acting unethically when it comes to treating substance abuse and prescribing medications that their patients don't need. Especially those specializing in the methadone and suboxone treatment programs.

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Response to sargentodiaz (Original post)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 08:27 PM

7. MDMA was used in the 70s as a therapy.

This is nothing new.

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