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Sat Aug 27, 2016, 03:32 PM

I was admonished for not warning about a potential triggering from pictures in one of my presentatio

I was presenting a lecture on gunshot wounds to medical students, something I am very qualified to do. It had pictures in it. Lots of pictures. I did not give a trigger warning. The next day there was a voicemail from the dept. head. He said a complaint had been made, and he did not know by whom. It was along the lines of the pictures had caused stress and nightmares and I had not given adequate notice.

Took about a week before we got the rest of the story…the person complaining was auditing/sitting in. They claimed they did not realize the lecture was about gunshot wounds despite the title. They claimed the medical students were equally appalled (despite the active interplay in the classroom). They were also upset that I discussed how different ammunition caused different kinds of wounds and how that was inappropriate.

When this all came out, I did a WTFO to the dept. head. One of the reasons I was brought in was my recognized expertise in gunshot wounds. He pointed out that allowing non-class members in is voluntary and up to the instructor. I was not willing to close my classes. The dept. head shrugged his shoulders and said fine.

There was one more complaint but it also went nowhere. At least in medical school you don’t get trigger warnings or safe spaces. You are expected to deal with it like and adult move on. Rest of the campus not so much.

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Response to His Daughter (Original post)

Sat Aug 27, 2016, 03:48 PM

1. This is just a new way the weak have found to weed themselves out of the herd.

I honestly don't know how these people think they are going to be competitive out there in the real world.
I don't see this new trend going anywhere, honestly...strictly from a mathematical/economical point of view, that mindset is parasitic, has nothing to offer, and doesn't live long outside of its host (liberal schools)

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Response to safestuffer (Reply #1)

Sat Aug 27, 2016, 03:54 PM

3. One of the realities of millenial life is many do not have regular 40 hour/week jobs, but several

part time ones, sometimes it amounts almost to piece work. it also means that if an employer finds them wanting, their hours just disappear. Eventually when they get hungry enough, they will start to conform out of necessity.

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Response to His Daughter (Original post)

Sat Aug 27, 2016, 03:51 PM

2. Not to downplay it, but I'd think gunshot wounds are the LEAST appalling

Like if anyone in medical school is appalled by pictures of that, they haven't seen anything yet.

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Response to shortviking (Reply #2)

Sat Aug 27, 2016, 03:55 PM

4. It wasn't a medical student, but someone sitting in

If they think gun shots are bad they should see burns or even dermatology

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Response to His Daughter (Original post)

Sat Aug 27, 2016, 04:31 PM

5. If any medical students

were appalled just what is it they expect to see in a practice? That is surreal.

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Response to His Daughter (Original post)

Sat Aug 27, 2016, 04:48 PM

6. I hope this is simply an outlier...

I'm not sure why you would allow an auditor into any such trauma class, but that is your business. If you know there is an auditor, perhaps a trigger warning might be appropriate, just to cover an extra base or two.

And, yes, perhaps we have removed ouselves from the uglier facts of life-- most of us don't see Uncle Bernie sucked into the woodchipper, or even our relatives who died in a sterile hospital room or nursing home. Gunshot victims happen, and I'm not sure they should be relegated to the ER or the morgue and completely hidden from view.

Do the dermatology and oncology lectures have trigger warnings if they have auditors? There's some frightening stuff there.

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Response to Scary Red (Reply #6)

Sat Aug 27, 2016, 05:08 PM

7. I allow auditors because I think information wants to be free (copyleft kind of thing)

That there should be no guild secrets and that knowledge should be as freely available to anyone as possible. I also never figured that an auditor would be a problem. It is not like the subject matter was hidden. I have had some older people audit the entire semester and interact well. I would like to continue with that if possible.

The person has been identified. If she shows up again, not sure what I will do.




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Response to His Daughter (Original post)

Sat Aug 27, 2016, 05:31 PM

8. People are just nuts

What a shock, a lecture about gunshot wounds, with picture of gunshot wounds. Not only that you talked about ammunition. Good for you, for standing up for yourself. Bravo Zulu.

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Response to His Daughter (Original post)

Sat Aug 27, 2016, 05:46 PM

9. If a medical student is upset by medical pictures - time to look for a new

life path - PRONTO!

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Response to WhiskeyMakesMeHappy (Reply #9)

Sat Aug 27, 2016, 05:58 PM

10. It was someone auditing...not a medical student

Bullet woulds are easy compared to some of the stuff you see in dermatology

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Response to His Daughter (Original post)

Sat Aug 27, 2016, 06:01 PM

11. Why were these people `surprised` that a lecture on gunshot wounds would actually show

gunshot wounds ?

This is completely illogical and almost farcical.

Smh.

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Response to His Daughter (Original post)

Wed Aug 31, 2016, 07:00 AM

12. Hope that little flower

is never in the position to be a good samaritan as a first on scene at a bad traffic accident. Who are they going to complain to then?

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Response to His Daughter (Original post)

Wed Aug 31, 2016, 04:40 PM

13. That's exactly the reason that my wife was not exactly pro gun when we met - gunshot wounds.

She went to SUNY Downstate (Brooklyn) in the late 1980s.

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Response to His Daughter (Original post)

Thu Sep 1, 2016, 06:41 PM

14. We need to start ignoring the snowflakes

Given a sufficient level of ignoring they will eventually shut up. In other words treat them like the two year olds they are acting like.

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Response to His Daughter (Original post)

Fri Sep 9, 2016, 02:37 PM

15. Sounds to me like the non-medical student in the room should have had a prerequesite course first

You know, the one titled "How to get a life."

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