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Tue Sep 13, 2016, 07:53 PM

Learned how to administer Narcan today

It would have saved the lives of 3 or 4 people I know, but wasn't widely available back then.

A simple way to save a life.

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Reply Learned how to administer Narcan today (Original post)
wonderwarthog Sep 2016 OP
goodwords Sep 2016 #1
id-entity Sep 2016 #2
goodwords Sep 2016 #3
id-entity Sep 2016 #6
Daves Not Here Man Sep 2016 #10
wonderwarthog Sep 2016 #18
exindy Sep 2016 #4
Daves Not Here Man Sep 2016 #11
exindy Sep 2016 #13
LeeCPTINF Sep 2016 #23
exindy Sep 2016 #24
LeeCPTINF Sep 2016 #25
Grumpy Pickle Sep 2016 #5
id-entity Sep 2016 #7
Grumpy Pickle Sep 2016 #8
id-entity Sep 2016 #9
wonderwarthog Sep 2016 #17
Grumpy Pickle Sep 2016 #22
Daves Not Here Man Sep 2016 #12
exindy Sep 2016 #14
Daves Not Here Man Sep 2016 #15
wonderwarthog Sep 2016 #16
His Daughter Sep 2016 #20
His Daughter Sep 2016 #19
wonderwarthog Sep 2016 #21

Response to wonderwarthog (Original post)

Tue Sep 13, 2016, 07:59 PM

1. With opiates, its hardly a life worth saving. (unless its a kid getting into a junky stash)

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Response to goodwords (Reply #1)

Tue Sep 13, 2016, 08:03 PM

2. Actually

the good medical grade stuff has near to zero harmful side effects, and people who simply can't get over their addiction can live perfectly normal lives with stable dosage.

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Response to id-entity (Reply #2)

Tue Sep 13, 2016, 08:04 PM

3. Sure thing Chief.

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Response to goodwords (Reply #3)

Tue Sep 13, 2016, 08:12 PM

6. No shit

Studies have shown opioids to be safe when they are used correctly and in the ways that are well understood.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opioid#Adverse_effects

In the case of heroin-assisted treatment however, users are provided with a form of pharmaceutical-grade heroin injection solution which doctors consider fit for injection. And as doctors refrain from drastic changes in dose and provide post-injection monitoring, overdoses are rare and can be quickly treated with opioid antagonists like Naloxone. Thus, patients in heroin-assisted treatment are relieved from the major complex of problems that defines illicit heroin use. Synthetic heroin taken under the aforementioned conditions is not neurotoxic and has few long-term side effects beside constipation and dependency. And while it had been speculated that the availability of such treatment options might change public perception of the risks associated with drug use and might lead to an increase in illicit drug use, the incidence of heroin abuse in Switzerland has declined sharply since the introduction of heroin assisted treatment. As a study published in The Lancet concluded:

The harm reduction policy of Switzerland and its emphasis on the medicalisation of the heroin problem seems to have contributed to the image of heroin as unattractive for young people."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroin-assisted_treatment

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Response to goodwords (Reply #1)

Tue Sep 13, 2016, 08:54 PM

10. You are no judge of who's worthy.

You, as per usual, spit nonsense. But welcome back. Bummer you can't stay outta trouble with all the good vibes you post here

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Response to goodwords (Reply #1)

Tue Sep 13, 2016, 10:16 PM

18. To be worth saving

The person really has to make a decision they want to live clean.

It is a battle that some win, and some lose.

I believe in giving someone a chance if they really want to fight that battle.

I also don't judge them if they die trying.

And I have let lying bullshitters go down in their own shit. They are the ones I won't waste my time on, someone else might really want help.

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Response to wonderwarthog (Original post)

Tue Sep 13, 2016, 08:08 PM

4. I've been the recipient.

Unbelievable the way it worked. One minute I was in convulsions, heart rate off the charts, then wham.

Allergic to morphine. Getting an injection of it is a heluva way to learn that fact.

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Response to exindy (Reply #4)

Tue Sep 13, 2016, 08:55 PM

11. Wow, man! That's crazy! Thank god they had this available, eh?

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Response to Daves Not Here Man (Reply #11)

Tue Sep 13, 2016, 09:17 PM

13. Got that right.

a doctor prescribed morphine for pain during an emergency.

Luckily it was In the ER.

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Response to exindy (Reply #4)

Thu Sep 15, 2016, 08:35 AM

23. Yay, I'm not the only one!

Two broken arms and an allergic reaction to morphine. One of the top contenders for worst day of my life.

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Response to LeeCPTINF (Reply #23)

Thu Sep 15, 2016, 09:49 AM

24. Happened to me twice.

2nd time I was getting a bone marrow biopsy and after the procedure the doctor shoved in some morphine to "take the edge" off.

Wait! Why's there a yellow ID band?

Fun times.

2 broken arms? That old bar joke pops to mind.

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Response to exindy (Reply #24)

Fri Sep 16, 2016, 05:22 AM

25. Have my alert tag so it never happens again.

Considered getting it tattooed

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Response to wonderwarthog (Original post)

Tue Sep 13, 2016, 08:10 PM

5. Not in favor of Narcan...it only enables more bad behavior.

It`s like the junkies have a babysitter looking after them now.

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Response to Grumpy Pickle (Reply #5)

Tue Sep 13, 2016, 08:16 PM

7. Worst drug war victims

are the ones who buy and believe all the bullshit that govt feeds them.

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Response to id-entity (Reply #7)

Tue Sep 13, 2016, 08:32 PM

8. It`s not a coincidence that heroin use has skyrocketed since the US has been

in Afghanistan.

A lot of people in high places are in on this gravy train.

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Response to Grumpy Pickle (Reply #8)

Tue Sep 13, 2016, 08:44 PM

9. That's for granted

and made possible only by criminalization.

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Response to Grumpy Pickle (Reply #8)

Tue Sep 13, 2016, 10:09 PM

17. It was the same during Vietnam

Anytime we have a war where poppies grow


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Response to wonderwarthog (Reply #17)

Wed Sep 14, 2016, 10:23 AM

22. yep.

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Response to Grumpy Pickle (Reply #5)

Tue Sep 13, 2016, 08:56 PM

12. Addiction enables bad behavior. And addiction needs counseling.

If narcan can enable someone to seek that counseling, it's a good thing.

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Response to Daves Not Here Man (Reply #12)

Tue Sep 13, 2016, 09:23 PM

14. Seems like an OD would be a real awakening


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Response to exindy (Reply #14)

Tue Sep 13, 2016, 09:44 PM

15. It can be. But it ain't "addiction" because it's easy to quite.

While I've been able to walk away from my boozing younger days and a long love affair with weed, I've had a few close to me struggle mightily. It's tough to see.

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Response to exindy (Reply #14)

Tue Sep 13, 2016, 09:59 PM

16. You got that right

I was warned someone coming off the heroin high after administering Narcan is quite possibly dangerous and be prepared to restrain/defend.

Not a problem as I have some bouncer experience.

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Response to exindy (Reply #14)

Tue Sep 13, 2016, 11:42 PM

20. For some it is, others not so much

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Response to wonderwarthog (Original post)

Tue Sep 13, 2016, 11:40 PM

19. Been around forever and is almost magic

Seen people half way to deaths door brought back by it.

Glad to see it is moving out of the medical cloisters into more general availability too

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Response to His Daughter (Reply #19)

Wed Sep 14, 2016, 12:13 AM

21. There are two units

In the house.

6 months ago a young man who everyone thought would be o.k. moved back to a halfway house in the city from this rural house.

Ex h.s. football star, farm kid. Strong enough to carry my 300 lbs to my room when I came home after knee surgery and couldn't walk.

They were so confident they let him move into a house that was being sold by himself, till a room opened up in the halfway house.

He had been dead for nearly 3 days in the summer heat when they found him dead from an o.d.. Closed casket, I held his grieving Mom in my arms.

The story is being repeated so often all over the country they finally realized they had to do something different, I guess.

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