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Tue Oct 25, 2016, 09:16 PM

Clinton Global Initiative made secret deal with Big Pharma to keep AIDS drug prices high

in 'rich' countries. This won't make a difference in the outcome of the election but it shows how foul a (*^$# Hellery is and how there's nothing to low that they won't sink to to pad their own nests.

In a way, this is like the pay-to-play politics the family slush fund is already know for except this time they're screwing really sick people.

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We were taken by surprise by President Clinton’s comments on world AIDS day and wish that someone had consulted with us before he made these comments. As you will see when you read this memo, we think that publicly pressuring the US and European AIDS drug companies to lower prices and bringing pressure to allow generic AIDS drugs into the United States will have limited if any success and could seriously jeopardize our negotiations to continually lower prices in poor countries. We also believe that there are other more impactful ways to address the US AIDS crisis today.

We have always told the drug companies that we would not pressure them and create a slippery slope where prices they negotiate with us for poor countries would inevitably lead to similar prices in rich countries. If we were going to change our view on this, we should have informed the companies before President Clinton went public with his statement and attempted to negotiate a way for them to participate in and get credit for whatever steps we could have persuaded them to take to help the crisis in the states. We might or might not have been successful in getting them to do something, but we believe the chances of success would have been higher than by trying to pressure them through a public campaign. It has taken us many years to build positive relationships with these companies while at the same time pushing them to continually lower their prices. We will now have to try to repair these relationships.

Since President Clinton’s comments were made, we have been contacted by a number of advocacy groups who are now intending to wage a public campaign to bring in generics and lower drug prices. We do not feel we can participate in this without jeopardizing our work around the world. We cannot oppose what they might do, but we also cannot be publicly supporting it either. This campaign will not get started until January, so we have some time to figure out and act upon our own strategy.

If we do try to do something in this area, we suggest that we approach the innovator companies that can currently sell products in the US with the idea of making donations to help clear the ADAP lists. For a variety of reasons, the companies will likely favor a donation approach rather than one that erodes prices across the board. I would guess that they would also likely favor a solution that involved their drugs rather than an approach that allowed generic drugs from India to flood the US market at low prices or one that set a precedent of waiving patent laws on drugs. This will be complicated to work out, but it might be possible. We would have to initiate discussions with multiple state health officials as well as HHS in addition to talking with the drug companies. If President Clinton wishes for us to be proactive, we suggest that we try a cooperative approach first. We can go to war with the US drug companies if President Clinton would like to do so, but we would not suggest it. Whatever we decide, we need to make a decision quickly and President Clinton and CHAI need to be in synch. I do not think it is a good idea for President Clinton to be taking one position and CHAI another.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/24440

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Such fucking scum. All of them. You don't get any lower than this.

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Reply Clinton Global Initiative made secret deal with Big Pharma to keep AIDS drug prices high (Original post)
AmandaMatthews Oct 2016 OP
Pony Express Oct 2016 #1
AmandaMatthews Oct 2016 #8
Pony Express Oct 2016 #9
AmandaMatthews Oct 2016 #10
Pony Express Oct 2016 #15
AmandaMatthews Oct 2016 #17
Trevor Oct 2016 #2
Gamle-ged Oct 2016 #3
Pony Express Oct 2016 #4
AmandaMatthews Oct 2016 #12
Pony Express Oct 2016 #14
AmandaMatthews Oct 2016 #16
D.Libby Oct 2016 #5
AmandaMatthews Oct 2016 #13
D.Libby Oct 2016 #18
AmandaMatthews Oct 2016 #19
D.Libby Oct 2016 #20
AmandaMatthews Oct 2016 #21
frankt8242 Oct 2016 #6
AmandaMatthews Oct 2016 #11
quad489 Oct 2016 #7

Response to AmandaMatthews (Original post)

Tue Oct 25, 2016, 09:51 PM

1. That's a Ridiculous Interpretation of Those Statements

US Drug companies set the prices in the United States

The Clinton's have been quite transparent that they have been negotiating lower AIDS prices for the areas of the World where the AIDS crisis is greatest and the need for cheaper prices is necessary. Lower world wide AIDs prices are one of the stated charitable goals of the Foundation just as the thousands of religious non-profits whose goals are to feed, clothe, educate and minister to the poor in undeveloped regions of the World. Surely, you don't think that it is uncommon for religious non-profits to negotiate lower prices to feed the hungry in undeveloped regions of the World-Its likely that companies assisting these religious non-profits also receive a charitable deduction for providing these foods and goods on a discounted basis

Finally, President Bill Clinton referenced in this document had not been President of the United States for 11 years when this document was allegedly written and Hillary Clinton isn't even mentioned

You got a big ole NUTHIN' BURGER

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Response to Pony Express (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 25, 2016, 10:35 PM

8. Yeah right. Sleezy is as sleezy does, and it don't get any sleezier than a Clinton

They trade in blood. Middle Eastern Blood, Central/South American blood. And now even U.S. blood.

All for the good of the Clintons.

Doesn't get any fouler than this.

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Response to AmandaMatthews (Reply #8)

Tue Oct 25, 2016, 10:45 PM

9. You Obviously Don't Know What a Non-Profit Foundation is

you have failed to present any rational argument how the Clinton were illegal enriched by assisting in the medical treatment of 8 million people for HIV-AIDs. They don't own any foundation assets, they aren't shareholders, they can't transfer non-profit assets during life or through their estates and non-profits are held for the public good just like millions of other religious, charitable, educational, scientific etc foundations and non-profits in the United States including those run in the name of just about every President in the History of the United States

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Response to Pony Express (Reply #9)

Tue Oct 25, 2016, 11:30 PM

10. And your bullshit is buying you nothing here but scorn. The fucking idea that they can make deal

with people's lives and for their own benefit, to make themselves look like 'humanitarians'. These are the lowest life forms on this planet. The stupid wretch has already got Obama snared up in her email mess and it's coming back to life. He can no longer say he 'found out' when everybody else did. Not that anyone with two working brain cells ever believed that guy. Not since he turned pimp for the NSA and lied.

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we need to clean this up - he has emails from her - they do not say state.gov
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/31077#efmAABABT

Nice story in the NYT too:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/26/us/politics/wikileaks-hillary-clinton-emails.html?_r=0

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I have to laugh at how you people will accept any lie, dirty trick, sell-out, or indecency as long as this foul creature gets to sit her pant-suited ass in the White House. Ethics and integrity have been thrown into the garbage, all that matters is supporting one of the most disgusting creatures that ever disgraced American politics.

Now she's caught running basically a take off on her pay-for-play schemes, and she's doing it with people's lives. She is absolute scum of the Earth. And it doesn't bother you people a bit. How does that not disgust you?

I may hate Trump but I don't think even he is down on the level with the Clinton Garbage.

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Response to AmandaMatthews (Reply #10)

Wed Oct 26, 2016, 12:40 AM

15. You Don't Even Have a Rudimentary Understanding of the Bullshit You Are Spouting

Non-profit/foundation law is actually a significant part of my law practice. Your interpretation is simply pathetic

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Response to Pony Express (Reply #15)

Wed Oct 26, 2016, 02:05 AM

17. Spare me the bullshit. They are foul, soulless, ugly creatures who, for their own

aggrandizement and power help skew the price of life saving drugs so that those who need it elsewhere can't get it. Madeline Albright made that remark about a 'special place in Hell'. She was directing it to the wrong people. That place is reserved for her and for walking human garbage like the Clintons.

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Response to AmandaMatthews (Original post)

Tue Oct 25, 2016, 09:56 PM

2. I don't read it that way

They simply told the drug companies that they wouldn't use the donor prices against them. If they said they were going to use the low prices to pressure the drug companies the companies wouldn't have lowered any prices.

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Response to AmandaMatthews (Original post)

Tue Oct 25, 2016, 10:01 PM

3. "It has taken us many years to build positive relationships with these companies while at the...

...same time pushing them to continually lower their prices. We will now have to try to repair these relationships."

Damn it, we've gotten really cozy with Big Pharma, if we want to maintain this special relationship we have to go along to get along, work hand in hand, profit for all of us!... 

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Response to AmandaMatthews (Original post)

Tue Oct 25, 2016, 10:08 PM

4. "Secret Deal" Hahaha! No-its on Front Page of the Clinton Foundation AIDs initiative Page

https://www.clintonfoundation.org/our-work/clinton-health-access-initiative/programs/hivaids



Two-thirds of people who need treatment in the developing world are still not receiving it.
When the Clinton Health Access Initiative (CHAI) was founded in 2002, only 200,000 people were receiving treatment for HIV/AIDS in low and middle income countries, with medicines that cost over $10,000 per person per year. Over a decade later, more than eight million people are receiving treatment and CHAI has helped reduce the cost of medicines to around $100 to $200 per person per year in many countries. Countries have repeatedly proven that it is possible to rapidly scale up treatment services. For the first time, there is real promise that we can turn the tide against HIV/AIDS.


CONGRATS you have now condemned the Clintons for developing a private, non-governmental, charitable solution to treating 8 Million people by reducing the astronomical price for an international plague. Perhaps we should just let AIDs spread around the world unchecked. Thanks for allowing us to demonstrate the tremendous charitable, morally wonderful initiative performed by the Clinton Foundation. What "good deeds" has Trump performed that has helped save the lives of 8 million people-and this is only one part of the Clinton Global Initiate. Your post is PATHETIC

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Response to Pony Express (Reply #4)

Tue Oct 25, 2016, 11:34 PM

12. Where's the part where they say they won't ever bring up drug prices for people in 'rich'

countries where they're not running their scams?

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Response to AmandaMatthews (Reply #12)

Wed Oct 26, 2016, 12:34 AM

14. Bill Clinton Hadn't Been President in 11 Years-Hillary Clinton Was Not Director of HHS

neither one is even writing these alleged documents

Your fantastically ridiculous understanding of basic facts is noted

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Response to Pony Express (Reply #14)

Wed Oct 26, 2016, 02:02 AM

16. And the fact that you can accept any low behavior out of either of them is noted as well.

Peas on a pod, so to speak.

And fuck The Clenis. He's an amoral pig who has never had an ounce of respect for his family.

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Response to AmandaMatthews (Original post)

Tue Oct 25, 2016, 10:11 PM

5. RW desperation has gone from comical to pathetic

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Response to D.Libby (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 25, 2016, 11:37 PM

13. Been a femaie never-missed-an-election voting Progressive Democrat for almost 40-years.

Too bad the party has sunk to a such a low level. The way it's being run now if it was a snake, you'd need to climb an extension ladder to kiss its ass.

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Response to AmandaMatthews (Reply #13)

Wed Oct 26, 2016, 05:19 AM

18. Watch the movie Trumpland. You will learn a few valuable things

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Response to D.Libby (Reply #18)

Wed Oct 26, 2016, 07:41 AM

19. I don't give a rat's ass about Trump, Trumpland, Trump Towers, Trump anything'

I'm not voting for Trump so give up the night club routine, you really fail at whatever you 'think' I am and what I plan to do with my vote. It sure won't go on this foul. lying, dishonest creature.

I've been watching the Clintons since the early 90s. The foul stench from their last time in the White House took years to be rid of. Who knows who they were nailing in the Lincoln Bedroom.

Two lying assholes lying into the camera to the American people as they have from the day they decided to become a boil on the ass of the American political system. It's two for the price of one (as they're so proud of saying). One of the highlights of having this corrupt duo around:






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Response to AmandaMatthews (Reply #19)

Wed Oct 26, 2016, 09:01 AM

20. It's a Michael Moore production but go ahead and enjoy your whine

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Response to D.Libby (Reply #20)

Wed Oct 26, 2016, 10:01 AM

21. Go ahead and vote for the least qualified and most dishonest candidate ever

to run for office.

If she hadn't had an entire crew in place to throw the primary she probably would be relegated to the trash heap of history where she belongs. She'll still get there, there's no doubt about that. It can't come too soon.

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Response to AmandaMatthews (Original post)

Tue Oct 25, 2016, 10:13 PM

6. Desperation is such a ..

 

Pitiful condition...

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Response to frankt8242 (Reply #6)

Tue Oct 25, 2016, 11:32 PM

11. So is being a money grubbing war whore who will make secret deals regarding life saving

drugs for the benefit of their own foundation and the detriment to others around the globe.

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Response to AmandaMatthews (Original post)

Tue Oct 25, 2016, 10:28 PM

7. And then their little lapdogs run around whining about those high US drug prices.........

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