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Tue Mar 26, 2019, 09:08 PM

A mysterious syndrome that makes marijuana users violently ill is starting to worry doctors

https://www.businessinsider.com/marijuana-syndrome-vomiting-nausea-chs-colorado-er-visits-2019-3

A mysterious syndrome that makes marijuana users violently ill is starting to worry doctors

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Good, let 'em be sick. They've got no business trying to avoid life by smoking dope.

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.....The latest study was published on Monday by a team of clinicians in Colorado, where marijuana was legalized medically in 2009 and recreationally in 2014. In their study, which appeared in the journal Annals of Internal Medicine, the physicians described more than 2,500 cannabis-related ER visits to a large public hospital in the state from 2012 to 2016.

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And probably nearly all of those emergency-room visits were paid through.....taxpayer-paid Medicaid.

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.....They found that stomach issues like nausea and vomiting were the main driver of the trips, even before psychiatric problems like intoxication and paranoia. And of those stomach issues, CHS was the most commonly reported problem and the top reason for the people to be booked at the hospital.

"To see that this was a leading reason for people coming to the ER, that was pretty striking," Andrew Monte, an associate professor of emergency medicine at UCHealth University of Colorado Hospital who led the study, told Business Insider.

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You know, just like about everybody else in my own generation, I smoked dope in college.

From about the time I was nineteen, until I was twenty-two, after which I quit because it seemed pointless, a teenager-ish way to be.

It's bothersome, seeing the number of people my age, and even a generation older, still floating around smoking dope. By the time one gets to be our age, one should be well-enured to life, and not needing to escape from it.

Just as there's legal minimum ages for the consumption of beer or cigarettes, there should be a legal MAXIMUM age for smoking dope. I suggest twenty-two be the cut-off point, so as to ensure we don't have a whole lot of infantile oldsters running around.

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Reply A mysterious syndrome that makes marijuana users violently ill is starting to worry doctors (Original post)
imwithfred Mar 2019 OP
Ruby Mar 2019 #1
Currentsitguy Apr 2019 #7
Ruby Apr 2019 #8
Grumpy Pickle Mar 2019 #2
RCW2014 Mar 2019 #3
Grumpy Pickle Mar 2019 #5
JaimeBondoJr Mar 2019 #4
oflguy Mar 2019 #6

Response to imwithfred (Original post)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 09:33 PM

1. *dope*. Lemme guess. Youre a boomer?

The generation before you fell for Reefer Madness. Now you guys are falling for this.

Scare tactics. Heh.

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Response to Ruby (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 3, 2019, 07:14 PM

7. I wouldn't say that

35 years ago, back in my college days, that was my reaction when I tried it. It was really one of the most unpleasant experiences of my life. Haven't touched it since.

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Response to Currentsitguy (Reply #7)

Wed Apr 3, 2019, 08:25 PM

8. First time smokers and recreational smokers...

*always* run the risk of smoking more than they can handle. I made that mistake myself in my early 20’s. Trying to keep up with regular smokers had me seriously sick to my stomach. Kinda like when I put on a nicotine patch right after I smoked a cigarette. 🤢

Difference is: this particular scare story in the OP involves long time cannabis users. There’s a lot of this garbage going around right now. They can’t actually show causation but that doesn’t seem to matter. Anti-cannabis people will run with it and they know it.

To that point: I read an article recently about how smoking weed causes psychosis. Buried deep in said article is this:

“However, the study doesn't prove causality, cautions Dr. Diana Martinez, a psychiatrist and addiction researcher at Columbia University. "You can't say that cannabis causes psychosis," she says. "It's simply not supported by the data," she says.”

And yet:

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2019/03/19/704948217/daily-marijuana-use-and-highly-potent-weed-linked-to-psychosis

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Response to imwithfred (Original post)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 09:37 PM

2. Could be pesticides ?

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Response to Grumpy Pickle (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 09:42 PM

3. Nope its the edibles. Takes a lot of time to feel the effects from them and when stupid

People don't get sn immediate high as with smoking, they eat more hence over consuming and
when it does start taking hold, to late to turn back.

Have to be patient with the "eds".

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Response to RCW2014 (Reply #3)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 10:54 PM

5. Makes sense.

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Response to imwithfred (Original post)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 10:04 PM

4. 2,500 over a five year period is a little more than 1.3/day.

Am I to believe that a "large public hospital" had less than 1.3 alcohol/related ER visits per day over the same period? Less than 1.3 people per day with blood/alcohol concentration of over .08?

Not buyin' that. Furthermore; I'm nearing 60, I'm successful, and I have all the toys (minus the airplane but that's comin'). I've also been known to have a toke now and again.

I know many people who smoke. No one's ever mentioned something like violent nausea, and I've never witnessed it.

And now; I can get an 8th of weed I couldn't have DREAMED of finding in my youth (I can't remember the last time I saw a stem or a seed), delivered to my front door for $40 bucks.

Life is good. No one's tryin' to escape it where I'm at.

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Response to imwithfred (Original post)

Sun Mar 31, 2019, 11:48 PM

6. Your pilot, your surgeon, your construction co-worker, its all good if they are high.

Right?

But the one you really, really don't want fucked up?

your lawyer

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