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Sun Jun 16, 2019, 05:10 PM

As Price of Insulin Soars, Americans Caravan to Canada for Lifesaving Medicine

By Emily Rauhala
June 16 at 2:52 PM

As their minivan rolled north, they felt their nerves kick in — but they kept on driving.

At the wheel: Lija Greenseid, a rule-abiding Minnesota mom steering her Mazda5 on a cross-border drug run.

Her daughter, who is 13, has Type 1 diabetes and needs insulin. In the United States, it can cost hundreds of dollars per vial. In Canada, you can buy it without a prescription for a tenth of that price.

So, Greenseid led a small caravan last month to the town of Fort Frances, Ontario, where she and five other Americans paid about $1,200 for drugs that would have cost them $12,000 in the United States.
“It felt like we were robbing the pharmacy,” said Quinn Nystrom, a Type 1 diabetic who joined the caravan that day. “It had been years since I had 10 vials in my hands.”

They’re planning another run to Canada this month to stock up on insulin — and to call attention to their cause. This time, they’ll be taking the scenic route, driving from Minnesota through Wisconsin, Illinois, and Michigan en route to London, Ontario, where insulin was discovered nearly a century ago.

Like millions of Americans, Greenseid and Nystrom are stressed and outraged by the rising costs of prescription drugs in the United States — a problem Republicans and Democrats alike have promised to fix.
Insulin is a big part of the challenge. More than 30 million Americans have diabetes, according to the American Diabetes Association. About 7.5 million, including 1.5 million with Type 1 diabetes, rely on insulin.

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imwithfred Jun 2019 #2
Cold Warrior Jun 2019 #3
His Daughter Jun 2019 #4
imwithfred Jun 2019 #5
His Daughter Jun 2019 #6

Response to RCW2014 (Original post)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 05:26 PM

1. faux news alert

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Response to RCW2014 (Original post)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 05:28 PM

2. You know, I know nothing about the trouble one goes through to get insulin,

as I'm not diabetic. However, alas I have many friends and acquaintances who are diabetics, and I'm getting the impression this "shortage" or the "great expense" of insulin is some sort of manufactured outrage by the Trump haters.

When the diabetics I know gripe about stuff, they gripe about how Democrats lie, how Democrats corrupt, how Democrats are doing their best to make our lives miserable. I never hear them gripe about any shortage or expense of insulin.

And a couple of months ago when the boy-mascot over at the hide5 site brought up the issue, the next time I went to the big city, I casually checked the appropriate store shelves. They looked jampack full of all sorts of brands and types and quantities and prices of insulin. I don't know what's "expensive" for insulin, but while I'd hate to have to spend money for it, the cost didn't seem out of the reach of most people.

And if one's "poor," there's always "free" Medicaid paid for by other people.

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Response to imwithfred (Reply #2)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 05:56 PM

3. ...looked jampack full of all sorts of brands and types and quantities and prices of insulin...

???

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Response to imwithfred (Reply #2)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 07:44 PM

4. Insulin is not stored on shelves where you could see it.

Diabetic supplies may be, but not the drugs themselves, including insulin.

There is some fire driving all this smoke. Insulin prices having been going up. Unlike many drugs, making it is not simple and you can't just brew some up in the sink. That said, there is no fathomable reason for the cross border price disparity. Prices can and should be comparable in the US and I believe Trump is supporting that.

Medicaid/Medicare does not pay all drug costs. Best I have seen Insulin is $40/3 month supply via FedBlue (Federal BCBS) mail order pharmacy. One of my staff is Type 1 and that is the best pricing she can find. That is a whole lot better than most private insurance.

For those of you reading this who are diabetic, the continuous glucose monitors are a dramatic change in how you manage your diabetes. Please consider them.

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Response to His Daughter (Reply #4)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 08:37 PM

5. It depends upon the type of insulin, how it's sold.

I'm no expert on it.

Apparently some insulin is via prescription only, some insulin is over-the-counter but sold in drug stores only, and some appears to be over-the-counter, no restrictions. The laws vary by state. Given my non-knowledge of the subject, it's possible I was sometimes looking at supplies for insulin, and not insulin itself. Some of these products are on shelves open to the public, others behind sliding doors that are locked, others visible on the shelves behind the pharmacist.

It remains remarkable that of the multitudinous friends I have who are diabetic, not a single one has ever griped to me about the non-availability of insulin, or the high prices of it. They've griped about everything else under the sun, usually politics, but never this.

There might--might--be some scarcity, or some high prices, but I think it's reasonable to assume this is a hysteria manufactured by people seeking any means to make President Trump look bad, nothing more than that.

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Response to imwithfred (Reply #5)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 09:20 PM

6. It is a controlled substance...it is not sold over the counter, but some limited kinds are

sold without a prescription. You still need to get it from a pharmacist.

Your friends probably have insurance...the insurance companies can negotiate pricing along with the cost of supplies. Even so the official price has been seriously climbing. The disparities between us and Canada demand some sort of explanation.

I think people are going after "Big Pharma". Trump has said he will do what he can to reduce the price of insulin. It is a poster child of existing drugs escalating without reason.

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