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Sat Mar 18, 2017, 10:51 PM

NS Woman dies and leaves 300 descendants

http://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canada/n-s-church-packed-as-momma-leaves-behind-178-great-grandkids-1.3330907

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Reply NS Woman dies and leaves 300 descendants (Original post)
gowiththrottleup Mar 2017 OP
RATFINK_5.0 Mar 2017 #1
gowiththrottleup Mar 2017 #2
Jardinier Mar 2017 #3
gowiththrottleup Mar 2017 #4
i verglas Mar 2017 #6
i verglas Mar 2017 #5
gowiththrottleup Mar 2017 #7
i verglas Mar 2017 #8
gowiththrottleup Mar 2017 #9

Response to gowiththrottleup (Original post)

Sat Mar 18, 2017, 11:59 PM

1. Very Impressive.

One of my grandmother's wouldn't allow us to call her 'grandmother', either.

If we called her 'Granny', then Game-Over !

Cousin's, mostly boys, couldn't resist. So one of them would do it, the rest of us would chuckle, then she'd close the door & let them/us have it.

I kept my mouth shut & just wanted out of the room ... in a hurry !



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Response to RATFINK_5.0 (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 19, 2017, 12:18 AM

2. Yes impressive. It is usually some man who has had multiple wives

who ends up with hundreds of descendants. This woman married into a family name that may have been named after the place in Nova Scotia my mum is from. I could be distantly related to her. Pretty neat that there was almost not enough room in the church for her whole family. What a life. What a legacy.

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Response to Jardinier (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 12:02 AM

4. Thanks.

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Response to gowiththrottleup (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 10:37 PM

6. family names in Nova Scotia are not generally derived from local place names

 

The black families of Nova Scotia mostly stem from post-US revolution immigration. Glasgow was likely a surname brought with them, although I couldn't say for sure whether the black loyalists carried their own (obviously assumed or assigned) surnames, or adopted surnames once they were in NS.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africville

I've done a little checking of censuses for the Glasgow family, but got stymied because in 1921, George was 3 and his young mother was already widowed, so her husband's name wasn't there. I'll delve a little deeper into their genealogy if you're interested -- but I doubt that there is a connection between a family from Glasgow, NS, and these Glasgow families of Nova Scotia ("Negro" per the censuses), unless there is a connection other than by the surname being the same as the city name.

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Response to gowiththrottleup (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 10:21 PM

5. and just imagine if every person on earth born 100 years ago

 

now had 300 living descendants.

How about if each of her 14 children had had 14 children, who each had 14 children ...

Horrifying thoughts. Obscene reproduction.

Women who had that many children up to the first half of the 20th century generally had no choice. No access to contraception, and no power to control their own sexual/reproductive activity.

She may have wanted that many children. Nobody had any reason not to at the time, other than the hardship it caused for most families that size. And women had little opportunity to do anything else.

We know better, and most women want better for themselves, at least, now.

There really just is nothing to admire about large-scale reproduction. It does no one any good, and demonstrably causes all sorts of harms.

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Response to i verglas (Reply #5)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 10:44 PM

7. Well I think it is an interesting story in that it was a woman with

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that many direct descendants. And a testament to how successful her children have been in NS and beyond. Surely with racism it would not have been possible if she had been born 50 years before she was. The real people with multiple children problems still are men. Look at Trump. Or Rupert Murdoch. That is the issue. And don't tell me they are both important people with good genes to pass along. What we know of Mrs Glasgow is that she was one dam industrious woman born at a time when there was no advantage in being black in ns and her family thrived. Parts of Preston did not even have a road going into it until the 1960s so fed up were the people of Preston with the white people of NS. Many, many of them were descendants of Maroons from Jamaica. Pretty stellar. What we know of Trump and Murdoch is that they have exploited the middle class worries to increase inequality within the US and enrich themselves beyond money they could spend in their lifetime and then double down on that. You know what you have if the world is filled with Trumps and Murdochs? Pakistan. Or Afghanistan. Places where the sucessful will not pay taxes or the men will not relinquish one iota of power to women. I'll take her and what little I know about her over that. And all her descendants.

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Response to gowiththrottleup (Reply #7)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 11:47 PM

8. why on earth would I tell you that??

 

Look at Trump. Or Rupert Murdoch. That is the issue. And don't tell me they are both important people with good genes to pass along.
The rich and their offspring are much more destructive than the poor. I don't see any issue.

I laid no blame on Ms. Glasgow, or even on her 14 children who averaged 5 children each. They were of their time. Actually, counting the children in her obituary, there seem to have been 21 altogether; 14 now living, I assume. She apparently also raised 6 children who were not her own; that is indeed commendable.

Keeping 14 - or 21? - children alive probably was an accomplishment. The more children a woman bore, as a general rule, the lower the life expectancy of each succeeding child, largely as a result of poverty-related factors - as Margaret Sanger was all too aware and worked to mitigate. On top of just the random infectious diseases and such for which there were no cures, such as the strep throat that killed my maternal grandparents' first child in 1923.

But still, it's pretty hard to see a person having 300 living descendants in the industrialized world, in particular, as a good thing. No matter who they are. The descendants are polluters and consumers of resources just like the rest of us.

Just for info, a couple who has 2 children who have 2 children, etc., will have 4 grandchildren, 8 great-grandchildren and 16 great-great-grandchildren. If they are all living at once, that makes 30.


(As I understand it, the Maroons deported from Jamaica who initially settled in NS ultimately emigrated to Sierra Leone. The black population of NS descends mainly from waves of emigrants from the US escaping slavery, and to a lesser extent from enslaved Africans brought to NS before the 19th century. In any event, they are certainly much longer established in Canada than my family: I am a grandchild of four immigrants.)

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Response to i verglas (Reply #8)

Tue Mar 21, 2017, 12:06 AM

9. Oh I think there is maroon blood still in ns going back 250 years.

Like you say people propagated back then. I bet Mrs Glasgow knew some of those ex slaves. My grandmother did in NS when she was a girl around 1902.

I am not recommending large families today. I am very hopefull increasing income around the world will reduce the birth rate everywhere, as it always does, before we run out of room on the planet.

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