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Tue Dec 18, 2018, 10:12 AM

Vaping study

Study Shows Big Rise in Teen Vaping This Year

A steep rise in nicotine vaping over the past year, accompanied by widespread minimizing of its potential harm, dominated the findings of a closely watched annual survey of American teenagers, released Monday.

The vaping increase was so precipitous, researchers said, that it was the largest annual jump in the use of any substance, including marijuana, they had seen in the project’s 44-year history.

In all, the researchers found, the rise amounted to 1.3 million more high school vapers in 2018 than in 2017.

“Vaping is reversing hard-fought declines in the number of adolescents who use nicotine,” said Richard Miech, the study’s lead author and a sociologist at the University of Michigan, in a statement. “These results suggest that vaping is leading youth into nicotine use and nicotine addiction, not away from it,”

Hmm, and here I thought it was somehow better than smoking. Yeah, bullshit.

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Reply Vaping study (Original post)
Butchie_T Dec 18 OP
FreeWheelBurning Dec 18 #1
Daves Not Here Man Dec 18 #4
la_tech Dec 18 #5
Qukid Dec 18 #2
MumblyPeg Dec 18 #7
Qukid Dec 18 #8
His Daughter Dec 18 #9
Butchie_T Dec 18 #11
MumblyPeg Dec 18 #14
Butchie_T Dec 18 #16
MumblyPeg Dec 18 #20
Daves Not Here Man Dec 18 #3
Butchie_T Dec 18 #10
MumblyPeg Dec 18 #6
Butchie_T Dec 18 #12
MumblyPeg Dec 18 #15
Butchie_T Dec 18 #17
MumblyPeg Dec 18 #21
Currentsitguy Dec 18 #13
Butchie_T Dec 18 #18
Currentsitguy Dec 18 #19

Response to Butchie_T (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2018, 10:18 AM

1. Nothing says "Im a douchebag" like vaping

I guess it is a generational thing but damn near every person I have seen vaping looks like a complete jackass.

My apologies to any vapors here.

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Response to FreeWheelBurning (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 18, 2018, 10:30 AM

4. i get that..

it is a weird thing, though. i have vaped nicotine and weed and find it to be far superior. but i feel like i would feel douchy pulling out a vape in public.

that said, glad they are becoming more prevalent.

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Response to FreeWheelBurning (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 18, 2018, 10:33 AM

5. None taken ....

However I dont chase clouds, I do it mostly in private, and I am discreet about things. You are right. Most of the cloud chasers I have seen that want to make as much fog as they can screams douchebag. They suck as much air as they can get you would think they were trying to breathe through the damn thing.

I started at 32 mg. I have stepped myself down to 2mg. Next level is zero. I was dumb to start smoking at 28. Once I hit zero I should be able to break the dependency!

For me its been a help. I havent smoked a regular cig in 6 years and that was a one off and it made me sick, one someone offered me. before that it had been two years with just about the same results.

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Response to Butchie_T (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2018, 10:24 AM

2. It's clearly better than smoking.

It sucks that teens are vaping in such high numbers, but would you rather they were smoking instead?

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Response to Qukid (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 18, 2018, 10:53 AM

7. smoke nazis don't care. it's a control thing, not a health thing... regardless of their claims.

time and data show the truth, kids do this shit at the same rates over time. only early education reduces usage, and even that is only marginally successful.
Vaping isn't good for you, but if I had to catch my kids doing something, I'd rather it be that than cigarettes ANY day.
Smoke nazis hate vaping because it destroyed their argument regarding public health. Now they are just flat-out making shit up.

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Response to MumblyPeg (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 18, 2018, 11:12 AM

8. I've gotta agree with Mumbles.



But, instead of saying "now they are just flat-out making shit up", I'd say they're trying to blow smoke up our asses.

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Response to MumblyPeg (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 18, 2018, 12:33 PM

9. I am somewhat of mixed minds

Nicotine addiction is vicious and very hard to beat. that said, that the tar etc is not there is a good thing. I also read where some of the flavored stuff being sold has no nicotine...a good thing, but what else is in it?

My only serious concern is what is in the mix. No testing standards, dosage levels, contaminant checks etc. That should be a minimum for anything sold. No back room chemistry mixing in who knows what.

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Response to MumblyPeg (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 18, 2018, 01:05 PM

11. Woooo nazi card pulled and played

Matters not to me whether someone smokes or vapes. Just don’t tell me how better it is for someone when it is just a bullshit argument for a proxy that still delivers nicotine.

Blather, simply blather.

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Response to Butchie_T (Reply #11)

Tue Dec 18, 2018, 02:21 PM

14. I will, in fact, tell you it is much better from a health perspective than smoking. It isn't even

comparable.
Millions rely on these to stay off of cigarettes, but people like you gladly ban them or call for banning them based on nothing but visuals.
Someone ingesting nicotine is actually none of your damned business. But smoke nazis INSIST on making it their business.
People like you are why I can't buy a decent light bulb or a toilet that flushes properly.

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Response to MumblyPeg (Reply #14)

Tue Dec 18, 2018, 02:38 PM

16. Ha you have not seen my closet either

Full of incandescent light bulbs. Especially the 3-way 250 watt ones. You, again assume and project incorrectly. But you keep being you.

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Response to Butchie_T (Reply #16)

Tue Dec 18, 2018, 05:01 PM

20. w000sh...

if you thought about it for one second, you might achieve an epiphany.
self-awareness appears to escape you regarding this subject

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Response to Butchie_T (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2018, 10:27 AM

3. so this is a gotcha moment for you?

do you think baling is the same thing?

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Response to Daves Not Here Man (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 18, 2018, 01:01 PM

10. Not for me, no gotcha anything

Just posting an article and a bit of an opinion.

Take it or leave it.

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Response to Butchie_T (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2018, 10:49 AM

6. I can find a shitload of more negative "studies" done by other anti-vaping

organizations if youd like.
And the study only covers who is doing it, not health issues.
Fact: if vaping didn't exist, all those kids would be smoking cigarettes instead... looking and drug and alcohol use which barely changes over time, but cigarette use has dropped dramatically, made up by kids vaping.
so basically your "study" just proves that the vaping option is keeping a lot of kids from picking up cigarettes.
Thats a good thing.

“Vaping is reversing hard-fought declines in the number of adolescents who use nicotine,”
The data shows this is an absolute and outright lie as well.

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Response to MumblyPeg (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 18, 2018, 01:06 PM

12. Believe it or dont

matters not to me.

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Response to Butchie_T (Reply #12)

Tue Dec 18, 2018, 02:22 PM

15. I choose to note believe it or anything any smoke nazi says

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Response to MumblyPeg (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 18, 2018, 02:39 PM

17. Awwww

You lost at nazi.

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Response to Butchie_T (Reply #17)

Tue Dec 18, 2018, 05:02 PM

21. you appear to be taking it personally.

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Response to Butchie_T (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2018, 01:42 PM

13. So, in other words

1.3 million more high school students did not take up smoking along with the associated increased cancer and heart disease risks.

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Response to Currentsitguy (Reply #13)

Tue Dec 18, 2018, 02:39 PM

18. Do you completely disregard the nicotine thing

Ok, I guess

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Response to Butchie_T (Reply #18)

Tue Dec 18, 2018, 04:47 PM

19. While being highly addictive

It has been demonstrated that the effects of nicotine (independent of all the other nasty crap in cigarettes) isn't really more injurious to the body than caffeine. Is it optimal? No, but I can think of far worse things one can put into their body.

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