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Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:56 AM

Can I rant about high-tech kitchen faucets for a minute?

When we rebuilt our house after the fire we really tried to think things through and chose products and solutions that would last. I really didn't want to be replacing things 3, 4, or 5 years down the road. Boy did we get burned on our kitchen faucet. At the time, we did a ton of research and thought the new touch faucets were a great idea. I always thought Delta was a good name, so we went with their version, which cost a stupid amount of money, something on the order of $500. I really thought it was expensive, but you get what you pay for. After all, my mom still has her original Delta single lever from when her house was built in 1963. It looked great and the touch idea seemed brilliant.



Come 5 years on and the stream weakened to a trickle. I did what logic dictated. I disassembled the head, soaked all the parts in Lime-Away. No difference. I took the cartridge out and soaked it. No difference. I replaced the spray head. I replaced the cartridge, which was discontinued, BTW, but I managed to track one down. No difference.

After more reading I concluded the electric solenoid that turns the water on and off was most likely failing or crudded up, so I sprung for yet another $100 (it was the only part not covered under the lifetime guarantee) and replaced that. Bingo! The faucet worked great. It worked for about 3 weeks as it turned out and then right back to the same. I could stand in front of the toilet and get a better stream than what is coming out of this. It isn't even enough to spray out the sink! We were reduced to rinsing dishes in a bathroom sink. I'll point out we have a new whole house water filtration system, so sediment cannot be the issue.

Yesterday I decided I had had enough. I am done with gee-whiz. Everything that fails is going to be replaced with a commercial equivalent. The range? When it goes, commercial. The fridge? Same. Dishwasher? I'm going to restaurant supply to get it. I'm done with this crap. To that end I ordered this:



It's a damned NSF rated commercial prewash faucet. It has no flow restrictors, no fancy electronics. In fact, the primary complaint seems to be the spray is so strong that if you don't have a good grip it can blow the sprayer out of your hand. Sounds about perfect to me.

Bottom line is don't waste money trying to overengineer a solution to a problem that does not exist.

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Reply Can I rant about high-tech kitchen faucets for a minute? (Original post)
Currentsitguy Feb 19 OP
Troll2 Feb 19 #1
Currentsitguy Feb 19 #2
MumblyPeg Feb 19 #3
Currentsitguy Feb 19 #4
msv Feb 19 #5
Currentsitguy Feb 19 #6

Response to Currentsitguy (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:05 PM

1. I bought one that looks similar to this - works great

I can't see the advantage of a single handle over two handles that I can adjust according to my whims. Each has a cartridge that can be replaced.

And combining the sprayer with the faucet seems like asking for trouble.

My big beef is with the supply cut-off valves under the sink, which never seem to work properly when you need them every decade or two.

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Response to Troll2 (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:18 PM

2. Had one of those when I moved in. Gotta admit I HATED it.

I suppose it's what you are used to. I never had one growing up or where I have lived before buying here. They always remind me of something you'd have on a laundry tub.

I forgot to mention one of the other non negotiables was a very high faucet that I can get a 5 gallon bucket under. It's one of the reasons I have 14 inch deep basins under 2 inches of concrete countertop that the faucet is actually mounted on in the sink.

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Response to Currentsitguy (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 01:48 PM

3. it gets harder and harder to find simplistic and well-built devices.

Even my fkin stove is a digital panel pain in the ass.
try to find a dishwasher (of decent quality) that has static knobs instead of a digital panel.
designed to fail is the new norm and the consumer has accepted it by continuing to buy this chinese garbage... and the reason is that there is no American made alternative in all but a few cases. Evne if there were, it would be American assembled chinese garbage.
dependable electronics CAN be built for not much more money than the chinese trash. we are talking the difference between a 3 dollar board and a 20 dollar board made with quality components and switching. thats it. look no further than the ECU controllers in your car. with unusual exception, they last 20-30 years and never hiccup... in a harsh and punishing environment no less. same with industrial controls that are subject to a 200 pound gorilla mashing the buttons day in and day out.
I really do get sick of dealing with this garbage

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Response to MumblyPeg (Reply #3)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:07 PM

4. I am a contradiction in terms: A 30 year tech professional who is essentially a Luddite

People have told us that our home reminds them of the Starship Enterprise. In many ways that is true, but only where necessary and where it's utility improves the situation. A faucet that rarely gets dirty because I can start it with a tap of the back of my cruddy hand but then comes on weaker than a stream of piss is of no use.

It's why I still drive a manual transmission car and have a hand tool to open cans, and so an and so forth. I also have some 12 odd computers scattered throughout the house, and am hard wired with Cat 5 in every room, but we won't talk about that.

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Response to Currentsitguy (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 03:01 PM

5. I sympathize.

My mom's fancy, expensive kitchen faucet is falling apart after just a few years--they apparently built it with non-stainless steel or something because the damn insides are all rusted. Like, who would have guessed that water might get in a faucet.

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Response to msv (Reply #5)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 03:15 PM

6. It seems in the Delta faucets

The weak point is the electric solenoid. I took the old one apart. It's a cheap little rubber diaphragm which funnels the water through a passage not much larger than a pencil it is easily obstructed. A speck no larger than a grain of sand can prevent it from operating correctly.

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