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Thu Sep 3, 2015, 02:25 PM

A question for Kim Davis supporters.

Would you support a jewish person refusing to issue gun permits on the grounds that the gun might be used to hunt pigs?

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Reply A question for Kim Davis supporters. (Original post)
smokingman Sep 2015 OP
ProudNYSTaxPayer Sep 2015 #1
smokingman Sep 2015 #2
fools_gold Sep 2015 #4
ProudNYSTaxPayer Sep 2015 #6
FORD Sep 2015 #8
762Justice Sep 2015 #10
Grebbid Sep 2015 #3
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KAT Sep 2015 #5
Jimmy Calhoun Sep 2015 #9
nolidad Sep 2015 #7
SlayerNut Sep 2015 #11

Response to smokingman (Original post)

Thu Sep 3, 2015, 02:32 PM

1. There is no prohibition of Jews killing pigs

only eating them, Islam prohibits their killing, not Jews. Just an FYI.

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Response to ProudNYSTaxPayer (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 3, 2015, 02:40 PM

2. OK. You still have to kill them before eating.

Unless you're really tough.

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Response to smokingman (Reply #2)

Thu Sep 3, 2015, 02:57 PM

4. So what?

You make no sense.

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Response to fools_gold (Reply #4)

Fri Sep 4, 2015, 10:03 AM

6. Exactly

there are plenty of better analogies for this situation that actually make sense. For instance would it be ok if she refused marriage certificates to people who had been divorced. Or would you have a problem with a Muslim refusing to issue any liquor licenses if that were a function of their job.

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Response to ProudNYSTaxPayer (Reply #1)

Wed Sep 9, 2015, 10:50 AM

8. Well, this is where it comes down to splitting hairs... or hooves, as the case may be...

 


Leviticus 11: 7-8
King James Version (KJV)

7 And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you.

8 Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you.

So while there's no specific prohibition against killing, they couldn't touch the animal after it was dead either, which seems unlikely. Unless you had a bunch of Jews going around Sarah Palin style, shooting pigs from helicopters, and leaving it to somebody else to clean up the mess of all the dead pigs. And that's probably not going to be a popular practice.

And of course, this verse also prohibits Jews from playing football. Of course the commandment against working on the Sabbath prevents Christians from playing football (since the majority of NFL games are on Sunday) so apparently football is the Devil's favorite sport in either case?

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Response to FORD (Reply #8)

Fri Sep 11, 2015, 04:16 PM

10. Just an an info point for you to store in case you ever need it again.

Shooting wild hogs and walking away is not unusual. The only reason to touch one is to eat it, or to drag it out of the field you were stopping it from tearing up. When there are enough of them, they are nuisance animals.

It takes some real effort to dress one, and not everyone wants to take the effort. Everyone wants to get rid of them if they have too many, so trap and shoot, hunt at night with lights, hunting over bait, or whatever it takes is fine when you are hog hunting.

The more you know.

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Response to smokingman (Original post)

Thu Sep 3, 2015, 02:50 PM

3. Here's a better question for Kim Davis supporters

Why are you so effing stupid ?

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Response to Grebbid (Reply #3)

Thu Sep 3, 2015, 02:57 PM

5. !

 

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Response to Grebbid (Reply #3)

Thu Sep 10, 2015, 10:05 PM

9. Or better yet, why are normally "tough on crime" folks condoning her breaking the law?

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Response to smokingman (Original post)

Tue Sep 8, 2015, 05:29 AM

7. False analogy

teh gun license is only a very rare possibility, but the license to gays is for them to wed.

BUT if a person applying for a license declares to a jew that is was for killing pigs and then eating them- it is not a problem- Jews have to keep Kosher and not gentiles.

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Response to nolidad (Reply #7)

Fri Sep 11, 2015, 05:17 PM

11. If you had a gay son,

would you let him and his boyfriend come over for Christmas dinner?

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