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Wed Mar 30, 2016, 06:52 PM

Truer words never spoken

Our Culture has accepted two huge lies.

1.If you disagree with someones lifestyle you must hate or fear them.

2. To love someone means you must agree with everything they believe or do.

Both are nonsense.

No one ever has to compromise convictions to be compassionate.

From Rick Warren.

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Reply Truer words never spoken (Original post)
nolidad Mar 2016 OP
frankt8242 Mar 2016 #1
nolidad Mar 2016 #9
PolishProgressive Mar 2016 #2
nolidad Mar 2016 #6
PolishProgressive Mar 2016 #10
outside Mar 2016 #17
nolidad Mar 2016 #19
PolishProgressive Mar 2016 #24
nolidad Apr 2016 #25
PolishProgressive Apr 2016 #26
nolidad Apr 2016 #31
PolishProgressive Apr 2016 #32
nolidad Apr 2016 #33
fncceo Apr 2016 #34
nolidad Apr 2016 #36
fncceo Apr 2016 #38
nolidad Apr 2016 #39
fncceo Apr 2016 #41
nolidad Apr 2016 #42
fncceo Apr 2016 #43
nolidad Apr 2016 #45
fncceo Apr 2016 #46
nolidad Apr 2016 #47
fncceo Apr 2016 #48
nolidad Apr 2016 #49
WhiskeyMakesMeHappy Mar 2016 #3
D.Libby Mar 2016 #13
WhiskeyMakesMeHappy Mar 2016 #14
D.Libby Mar 2016 #15
WhiskeyMakesMeHappy Mar 2016 #16
nolidad Mar 2016 #20
nolidad Apr 2016 #37
D.Libby Mar 2016 #4
nolidad Mar 2016 #7
D.Libby Mar 2016 #11
nolidad Mar 2016 #21
Phlegm Monger Mar 2016 #5
nolidad Mar 2016 #8
D.Libby Mar 2016 #12
nolidad Mar 2016 #22
oldenuff35 Mar 2016 #18
nolidad Mar 2016 #23
SlayerNut Apr 2016 #27
nolidad Apr 2016 #28
SlayerNut Apr 2016 #29
nolidad Apr 2016 #30
southernwriter Apr 2016 #35
nolidad Apr 2016 #40
Junglejim43 Apr 2016 #44

Response to nolidad (Original post)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 07:18 PM

1. Wow!! Noli"...

 

I'm " feelin' the love" already..!! !

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Response to frankt8242 (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:39 AM

9. I wish you did.

His love is life altering!

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Response to nolidad (Original post)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 07:38 PM

2. Your post was just a few words away from accurate:

Much more accurate would be:

"Words never spoken,

1.If you disagree with someones lifestyle you must hate or fear them.

2. To love someone means you must agree with everything they believe or do. "

But then again I know it's so much easier to just hear and agree with people who say the things that you want to hear. It's so much easier to hear people tell you that you're right, and the poor poor victim.

A guy a couple thousand years ago knew that too. Something about itching ears...maybe you've heard something about that?

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Response to PolishProgressive (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:37 AM

6. Yes I have! I love Him for who He is!

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Response to nolidad (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:36 AM

10. Great! Then maybe you'll take his advice

Great! Then maybe you'll take his advice about those itching ears teachers? And since the teacher in your op is pretty clearly actually lying, think about who really sent that message. (Hint: who's the father of lies?)

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Response to PolishProgressive (Reply #10)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:56 PM

17. I wonder why President Obama

asked him to speak at his inauguration? Or why Hillary speaks at his mega church?

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Response to PolishProgressive (Reply #10)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:20 PM

19. First I don't follow Rick warren. I have exposed many of his heresies.

2nd He never claimed it was a direct quote from the word of God. But it is an accurate statement of the principles Jesus laid forth.

Now, how is Warren lying?

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Response to nolidad (Reply #19)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:05 PM

24. First

First, you're spreading warren's teachings. So obviously you've turned your itching ears his way for a good scratching. This is a perfect example of a dude telling people what they want to hear, what makes them feel good, and folks lapping it up. Even though it's patently made up.

Second, the lie is, you know, the part you included in the op. Those 2 bits are something that no one has said, nor tried to convince anyone. The only people who make those claims are the teachers that Jewish guy warned about a couple thousand years ago. The teachers telling people what they want to hear and getting filthy rich off of it.

But then again, hey, feel free to turn a deaf ear to anything that makes you feel bad and just stick with listening to those teachers that soothe those itchy itchy ears. Calamine lotion preachers feel so good, don't they? As long as they keep telling you that you're all right. That you're the poor poor victim. That feels good, doesn't it? So just stick with that. Don't worry about how your OP is completely 100% untrue. Don't dare blame the guy who sold you that delicious snake oil. If you do, he might stop giving your doses of feel-good-preaching. It's addicting, isn't it? I understand. They tell you that truth is stranger than fiction, but they don't tell you that truth doesn't feel as good.

Well, that guy wandering around the desert 2000 years ago did say that the truth isn't as comfortable as fiction. But what did he know? It feels much better to believe folks who tell you things like the OP.

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Response to PolishProgressive (Reply #24)

Fri Apr 1, 2016, 05:39 AM

25. All I have seen from you is lots of accusations

Now produce some evidence that that phrase is not part of the love and compassion the Lord Jesus commanded all men to live by.

That Jewish guy as you said - is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords! His name is Jesus.

First, you're spreading warren's teachings. So obviously you've turned your itching ears his way for a good scratching.

If that is what you wish to believe- I can't stop you! I will post biblical principles from whoever writes them. Even Mahatma Ghandi said things that are biblically accurate, and I would post those phrases as well!~

Don't worry about how your OP is completely 100% untrue.

So you say, now how about backing that charge up with that little thing called evidence.

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Response to nolidad (Reply #25)

Fri Apr 1, 2016, 08:09 AM

26. That's what I thought.

That's what I thought.

Enjoy those well scratched ears my friend. Did you know there was something else I heard someone once said that may be worth considering. Something about how not everyone who says "Lord, lord" will be welcomed to heaven.

In any event, since no one ever has claimed what you claim in the op, your call to provide evidence that no one said it is almost as laughable as the evidence you provided that anyone has made those claims in the first place.

Enjoy those well scratched ears. It's so much more fun to believe folks that tell you what you want to hear isn't it?

Do you know what the shortest bible verse is? Very appropriate in response to your desire to keep those ears nicely soothed.

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Response to PolishProgressive (Reply #26)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 06:05 AM

31. So is this your round about way

of saying you know these things are biblical principles, but are just too proud to admit it?
Got it! Thanks.

Do you know what the shortest bible verse is? Very appropriate in response to your desire to keep those ears nicely soothed

I do, do you?.

In any event, since no one ever has claimed what you claim in the op, your call to provide evidence that no one said it is almost as laughable as the evidence you provided that anyone has made those claims in the first place.

Should of gone to my church-- we matched bible verses verifying what Warren said on my OP are biblical principles within 2 minutes.

Instead of calling yourself Polish Progressive-- you should name yourself Sanballat or Tobiah

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Response to nolidad (Reply #31)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 11:16 AM

32. Re read your original post.

Re read your original post.

No one. No one. No one is claiming what Warren (and you by proxy) have posted.

Your continued attempts to spread complete falsehoods is almost as telling as your inability to even consider those as falsehoods.

While I do not doubt your ability to understand and share the proper time to wash my hands, your post offers a much more telling view as to where your heart is. Keep chasing those who scratch your ears.

The numbers 1 and 2 in your OP are things no one ever tried to convince anyone. No one.

But hey, you just focus on when's the best time to wash your hands. Legalisms and hypotheticals and made up imaginings like in your OP are exactly what Jesus gave himself up to be tortured and died for. Right? I'm sure that's the sort of thing Jesus thought was most important, right?

Those who have ears, should have them scratched. (That's what he said, right?)

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Response to PolishProgressive (Reply #32)

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 02:24 PM

33. `Sorry to burst your bubble.

No one. No one. No one is claiming what Warren (and you by proxy) have posted.

From Patheos.com

There is no way to oppose equal rights for gay people without being a bigot/homophobe/asshole/pick-your-word.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-shore/is-every-christian-whos-against-gay-marriage-necessarily-a-bigot_b_5374429.html

http://www.marketfaith.org/are-christians-really-bigots-and-homophobes/

Thus endeth your fallacy!

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Response to nolidad (Reply #6)

Mon Apr 4, 2016, 08:00 AM

34. Simon of Peraea?

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Response to fncceo (Reply #34)

Mon Apr 4, 2016, 07:40 PM

36. Guess Again.

I'll give you a hint- the One who was crucified, died and physically rose again from the dead and then bodily ascended to heaven

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Response to nolidad (Reply #36)

Mon Apr 4, 2016, 08:25 PM

38. Brian?

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Response to fncceo (Reply #38)

Tue Apr 5, 2016, 11:19 AM

39. Getting warmer!

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Response to nolidad (Reply #39)

Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:04 PM

41. Tired of guessing ...

... the list of fake Moshiachim is too long to go through here.

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Response to fncceo (Reply #41)

Tue Apr 5, 2016, 02:56 PM

42. Then you should have just written the name of the true Moshiach

Jeshua ben Josef, the one who was murdered on the cross and rose again according ot the Scriptures to atone for our sin!

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Response to nolidad (Reply #42)

Tue Apr 5, 2016, 06:24 PM

43. Never heard of him...

... sounds like a momser.

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Response to fncceo (Reply #43)

Thu Apr 7, 2016, 06:46 AM

45. Too bad

You should meet Him- you would find out He is not!

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Response to nolidad (Reply #45)

Thu Apr 7, 2016, 06:51 AM

46. Met a lot of his followers ...

... pretty safe to say he's a momser.

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Response to fncceo (Reply #46)

Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:50 PM

47. Well maybe you should Judge the Moshiach on HIm and not His imperfect followers.

What you're doing is just like this example:

I have met lots of pedophiles who like FNCCEO so because all the se pedophiles like you- you must be a pedophile.

Search HIm out and then you can be one of His imperfect followers as well!

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Response to nolidad (Reply #47)

Thu Apr 7, 2016, 07:18 PM

48. Go peddle your wares somewhere else



Totally not interested in your toxic nostrums.

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Response to fncceo (Reply #48)

Fri Apr 8, 2016, 06:55 AM

49. For someone not interested in my "toxic nostrums"

You certainly spent a lot of time responding to me.

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Response to nolidad (Original post)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 07:41 PM

3. Truly a thread that everyone should "appreciate".

Please folks, click that appreciation tab.

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Response to WhiskeyMakesMeHappy (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:00 AM

13. I do 'appreciate' bullshit for what it is

"If you disagree with someones lifestyle you must hate or fear them"


If the op's type didn't 'hate and fear' they wouldn't try to make laws against those they supposedly don't hate and fear.

Yet they do.

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Response to D.Libby (Reply #13)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:51 AM

14. Blaw, Blaw, Blaw

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Response to WhiskeyMakesMeHappy (Reply #14)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 11:01 AM

15. "Blaw, Blaw, Blaw"

The most intelligent thing from the right in a long time

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Response to D.Libby (Reply #15)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 01:02 PM

16. Followed with more Blaw Blaw Blaw.

I'm sure you're very impressed with yourself.

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Response to D.Libby (Reply #13)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:23 PM

20. Which laws are you referring to ?

The most severe one I know of was DOMA.

It wasn't because we followers of Jesus hate gays. The Opposite is true. But God HImself defined marriage and we do not believe any nation should change that definition.

God is still Sovereign over Creation and He will deal with nations that violate His laws! We would see America spared that.

If you know of any mnore severe laws, I am all ears.

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Response to D.Libby (Reply #13)

Mon Apr 4, 2016, 07:43 PM

37. Sorry but your pile of lies just won't fly

You refuse to find out why we would pass laws against behaviors, so you resort to the default position of the left and just make up whatever will make those you disagree with look the worst!


My "type" have been slandered and even murdered by your "type" for nearly 2,000 years now.

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Response to nolidad (Original post)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:23 PM

4. Do you take 'dad' advice from that imbecile too?

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Response to D.Libby (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:38 AM

7. Yes I did

My earthly dad was a drunken philanderer who abandoned my mom when I was 4 years old.

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Response to nolidad (Reply #7)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:44 AM

11. Well at least he didn't drive you to kill yourself...



Cons sure do pick creeps to idolize

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Response to D.Libby (Reply #11)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:24 PM

21. OOPs I thought you were talking about Jesus, not Rick Warren.

No I don't do anything with Warren, Read one book and that ended it for me with Him.

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Response to nolidad (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:23 AM

5. awww..

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Response to Phlegm Monger (Reply #5)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:39 AM

8. Well you may think it a platitude

But it is a truth for untold millions.

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Response to nolidad (Reply #8)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:50 AM

12. Yep just like Santa Claus

It's easy to fool the gullible

Plus, so many of the the gullible are also cowards, using their myths to justify their hate and fear of 'others'

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Response to D.Libby (Reply #12)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:27 PM

22. Nice try but it is still a lie

no matter how many times you try to repackage your falsehoods.

I don't hate nor fear others. No matter how many times you wish to tell me I do.

And you will find out that while Santa Claus is a myth--Jesus still lives and reigns, is the King of Kings and is physically returning at His appointed time to establish His kingdom on earth.

YOu still have time to avoid judgment, but that is up to you. He has done all the work, you just have to trust in HIm and what He accomplished for you on the cross and the empty tomb.

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Response to nolidad (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:22 PM

18. You left at least one out so I'll add it.

If you agree with someone, anyone or any group on an issue then you must, usually by liberal decree, agree with the radicals associated with that part of our population on any and all subjects.

This concept is what the liberals use as proof of your beliefs.

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #18)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:29 PM

23. Having been on this site for nearly 2 years now

I am extremely familiar with the left trying that. They find what you believe and then dig out the most extreme and faulty who profess the same and say you are just like them. This has been going on against believers since Rome started persecuting and murdering us. Old lie, just dressed differently.

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Response to nolidad (Original post)

Fri Apr 1, 2016, 01:19 PM

27. I suppose

You don't have to hate someone to be a religious bigoted asshole and treat them like shit or like second class citizens. Now I'm not saying all religious people are bigoted assholes, but a lot if them certainly are, however, they can still love the person they are being a bigoted asshole towards.
I guess.. lol

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Response to SlayerNut (Reply #27)

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 06:16 AM

28. See religious folk can be as sinful as non religious folk

See we are all sinners, just christians are theones whose sins have been forgiven.


but yeah religious folk can act just as much a bigoted asshole as non religious folk.

We stand out more when we do it, cuz the other bigots rightfully expect better of us.

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Response to nolidad (Reply #28)

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 07:23 AM

29. I don't expect bettet

Or worse from religious people than non religious people. It's the religious leaders that claim the moral high road and they are the worst fucking ones, bigots and hypocrites.

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Response to SlayerNut (Reply #29)

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 05:55 PM

30. Some are, some aren't.

Christian leaders (if they are saved) are just sinners saved by grace!

In our psycho-sexual culture, sexual sin weighs heavy on every soul! Some do a better job of it, some don't.

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Response to nolidad (Original post)

Mon Apr 4, 2016, 01:57 PM

35. My theory is projection.

Some on the left hate those who aren't like them, so they think everybody on the right is the same.

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Response to southernwriter (Reply #35)

Tue Apr 5, 2016, 11:24 AM

40. Sadly that is more true for the left than the right.

Since Reagan, the left has been continually villifying and lying about conservative principles and as most colleges are infested with liberal thought- college educated? people come out well indoctrinated that if you are conservative you are the following:

1. care more for the unborn than the born
2. Want to give the wealthy tax cuts even if people starve.
3. Hate the poor, blacks, hispanics, asians poor, gays, LGBTQ's
4. wanna make granny have to eat cat food.
and about 100 other things.

They tend to have polarized thinking. For too many of them there is no middle.

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Response to nolidad (Reply #40)

Tue Apr 5, 2016, 11:58 PM

44. exactly which of your list isn't true with the bulk of the elected Repub officials.

well maybe #4 isn't true. They don't want grandma eating cat food. they just dont care if she does.

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