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Tue Nov 27, 2018, 07:42 AM

Quote of the Day

Psalm 134 King James Version (KJV)
134 Behold, bless ye the Lord, all ye servants of the Lord, which by night stand in the house of the Lord.

2 Lift up your hands in the sanctuary, and bless the Lord.

3 The Lord that made heaven and earth bless thee out of Zion.

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nolidad Nov 2018 OP
Frankenvoter Nov 2018 #1
SatansSon666 Nov 2018 #2
Bubba Nov 2018 #3
SatansSon666 Nov 2018 #5
Frankenvoter Nov 2018 #4
SatansSon666 Nov 2018 #6
Frankenvoter Nov 2018 #7
SatansSon666 Nov 2018 #8
Frankenvoter Nov 2018 #9
SatansSon666 Nov 2018 #10
Frankenvoter Nov 2018 #11
SatansSon666 Nov 2018 #12
Frankenvoter Nov 2018 #13
SatansSon666 Nov 2018 #14
Frankenvoter Nov 2018 #15
SatansSon666 Nov 2018 #16

Response to nolidad (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 08:06 AM

1. I understand now how pride gets in the way of a relationship with God

I was prideful to the Nth degree, never once did I give thanks to the one who had made it possible for me, so it was all taken away from me and I was on the street exactly this time 10 years ago, it got into January and was so cold I went to Salvation Army, I had a vision from Jesus, I'm not sure if I've ever told you but I say it publicly to people all the time on this issue, I either get a "Praise God", "Why aren't you locked up mentally" and everywhere in between.

I don't care if they don't believe me, all I can do is tell them and then it's up to them, everyone wants that personal meeting with God so they can believe, but true faith is the belief without proof right?

We humans are stuck in a no win situation, we are told to have faith, that there is a world beyond, that our actions here have consequenses there, but the only thing we can SEE, is the edge of the cliff that keeps getting closer everyday and it makes us want to act out humanly, eat, drink and be merry because tomorrow I have to die.

It's that rub we fight against and the enemy exploits. Jesus knows this, he knows that no matter how much pure faith God requires, we will never get totally there and we need our proof, just a little, to help us along that path of right living.

But that pride gets in the way, "I did this, I did that, I went to school, I got the job, I deserve all this stuff that surrounds me, I, I, I"

I understand now how that gets in the way of a true relationship with God, he's kind of standing htere being like "Would you care to mix me into the equation here? Just a little?" And we don't do that.

It was in the middle of a cold dark helpless and hopeless period of my life that the wall came down, and it was because I had been reduced to finally begging for help from the very person I had been wallking around giving the finger to everyday in everyway and you know what? He gave it.

1 I waited patiently for the LORD; he turned to me and heard my cry. 2 He lifted me out of the slimy pit, out of the mud and mire; he set my feet on a rock and gave me a firm place to stand. 3 He put a new song in my mouth, a hymn of praise to our God. Many will see and fear the LORDand put their trust in him.

I however was not waiting patiently.

Jesus THE Christ deserves and gets my respect and my bowing down to worship him, you betcha. I know I am as yet still a prodigal Christian, but I like knowing he understands that too.

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Response to Frankenvoter (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 03:11 PM

2. I must be a great person in God's eyes.

He's never had.to appear and tell me how bad I'm fucking up.
So if he's real, I'm on the right track and have nothing to worry about.
He gets it.
No need to get a 'vision from Jesus' to set me straight.
I'm good to go.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 06:44 PM

3. Or Maybe He Figures

You're not worth wasting His time.

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Response to Bubba (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 05:36 AM

5. Nah. He loves us all equally right?

Thats what he said.
If I was fucking up he'd appear to me like he appeared to others when they were admittedly fucking up.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 10:50 PM

4. I had to take you off ignore to read that

I had to take everyone off ignore, you were the last in line (seriously, go ahead and insert Dio refference here), Zappa Zappa Doo is just an asshole, I might put him back on soon enough, Ratulies I was probably pissed at one time and said to myself "no, I'll start listening again", the other person I cant remember so whatever it was, whatever we'll see as time goes on so that only left Satans Son, and I had a feeling that when I lifted that ignore you'd be there.

So give yourself a thanks and a hallelugha, you pulled your brethren out of the pit with yourself for a monetary reprieve, and another chance to accept Christ as your personal lord and saviour, I did, and I was once like you, Luciferian I called myself and I thought i was the first person in the world to come up with that name.

I was at war with God, every day in every way, I wasted no opportunity to give him and his followers the finger. I suspect you are much the same, I cant remember exactly what had me put you on ignore but I will converse with you for the time being, EVERYONE deserves the chance to accept Christ, and so anything you wish to ask me about that experience I will be happy to answer.

I have seen my future in my dreams on several occasions, I have had dead relatives come to me in my dreams the night they die, I have had spirits in houses laugh at me as if they were right there, right next to me, I have dabbled in the occult, I have prayed to satan, and buddy, I am here to tell you it is all fun and games until the poltergeist sets up camp in YOUR house.

When you cant sleep at night in your own house, come to Jesus, he dispels them, he tells them to go, and they go.

Regardless of how chummy you think you are with Lou, at some point the mask is gonna come off. You'll be on human flypaper, he'll have your soul, you'll be looking at him with an "but you promised" look on your face and he will lauggggggh his ass off at your helplessness, he has you, you know it, and there is no hope, but there is a smile on his face, a big one.

It is a paradox of this world that our greatest enemy is presented as our greatest friend, and our greatest friend is presented as our greatest enemy but it is what it is, we are naturally attracted to the evil, in a way that a moth is attracted to a bug light, and seem destined to go to the hell God keeps warning us about. It doesn't seem fair and so humans get a case of the "fuck it's" eat drink and be merry because tomorrow I have to die.

It's that rub we fight against and the enemy exploits. I am a heretical Christian, I beleive we were created by the devil, that's why he has such easy access to us as compared to God. "I will be like the most high" He wanted subjects to worship him as they worshipped God right?

God told Lucifer he had to serve us and he said hell no, why would God tell him he had to serve us? Maybe if he made the mess, now you can do something about it, but again, hell no, and rebellion, and "we'll just overthrow your ass and do it my way".

I had a vision from Jesus on one of the darkest days of my life, you can choose not to believe it, you can choose not to believe any of the other stuff, you can choose not to believe that someone close to satan I dont think it was him but someone said "go get a 2 dollar lottery ticket, you'll be happy" (I was in a hotel alone, homeless after having lost my house, everything Stephen King said about hotels is true).

I dont wanna do that I only got 20 bucks left "Go get it you'll be happy" OK OK, just shut up.

So I go get the ticket and win 100 and the voice says "go to the bar, they're playing music you like" so of course I go and whats playing off the jukebox? None other than N.I.B.

I was hooked man, as are you, but I'm telling you HE LIES. Get that straight, HE LIES. Thats all he does, all day everyday, on every issue, he lies to you, you can count on it, the same as you can count on Jesus to be THE interceding force that will pull you off that flypaper and yes sir, you will be on bended knee to him after that, yes you will.

I had everything taken away from me, the job the house the 401K I was living in my car in wintertime, I was still in league with Lou, I knew I was in too deep to back out now but I was getting the definite feeling he wasn't holding up his end of the baragain either, on top of that I had given him everything, my house my job my money my respect my soul, the only thing left was my life and he wanted that too.

So I went to the very person I had been walking around giving the finger to everyday, and I asked him why he was such an asshole (this was not a polite conversation) I went on to list my grievances against him and who the fuck does he think he is anyway pulling this bullshit on people, making us live then die always being told not to do what it is that makes us happy it's a bunch of bullshit, I got the distinct feeling he hated me and was using my life as a cosmic joke for himself and I wanted to know why.

I had been living in my car for around a month, it was around this time of year and I was cold, theres a cold that sets in that no amount of socks or layers of clothes helps, I had just gotten done with my rant at the boss and I started feeling warm, I hadn't felt warm for a while, and I had a vision, it was like I was walking next to Jesus on his way to be crucified. He was bloody, hurting, but had a look on his face like "I'm gonna finish this".

As I looked into his eyes I saw that he was God, walking as a human, in order to be able to see the word through our eyes, experience it the way we do and be able to relate to us better, he was also paying a debt for me that I had no way of repaying, like a parent would for thier kid who broke a window, he crushed death that day, and created a path for us.

Because again, this all relates back to the idea God is our grandfather, not our father. I dont see that taking away his glory one bit if anything I think it magnifies it, that one of his creations made a creation of its own that got out of control like a lab experiment petri dish, the prick who started it all walks away from his mess and the owner of the bulding sticks around to clean up the mess while the ex employee keeps being petulant crybaby about things.

I will close (for now) by saying I see Jesus as our lawyer, because God is perfect and can only see right and wrong, when our time comes to be judged by a judge who sees stealing a loaf of bread the same as murder, Jesus is the one thats gonna be there FOR YOU to say "your honor, in my clients defense, I'd like to tell you a little about hunger".

Thats who Jesus is, he's your friend, not your enemy. I'm not gonna check a word I wrote so there might be some typos, but freel free to ask away about any of the above, I used to be Luciferian, I am now Christian. I dabbled in the occult, I will no more, I reccomend against it because HE LIES, it's all he does, all the time.

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Response to Frankenvoter (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 05:39 AM

6. I don't worship Satan.

Satan isn't real.

Now you just worship the lesser of 2 evils.
I'm happy you turned your life around. Nothing wrong with that. If it took religion to do it, then that's what it took.
Still doesnt make it real. Real to you, that's it.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 05:49 AM

7. You sound like a guy I converse with at another site

He uses a pic of satan as his avatar, calls himself morning star and yet claims to be an athiest and a non believer overall, and even if you are at that point it is a slippery slope, giving acknowledgment and anything resembling praise to satan gets his ears perked up and putting you on his "friends" list.

Why did you choose that name? Was it purely to stick a finger in Christians eyes? If so what is your grievance against Christians?

Also, Just for refference I dont consider myself a typical Christian I identify with the Branch Davidians and if I could find a similar compound in operation today I'd be in the process of setting down some new roots.

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Response to Frankenvoter (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 07:03 AM

8. Satan isn't real.

And he isn't checking discussionist user names for friends.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 07:22 AM

9. Call on Jesus once you're on that flypaper

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Response to Frankenvoter (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 07:36 AM

10. I don't have to.

He'll reveal himself to me in a vision if I stray off the path.
So I'm doing fine.
I'll let him work on helping those starving children. Wait..

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #10)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 08:03 AM

11. Oh, now I remember why I put you on ignore

Maybe so, but you have to live a hell beforehand, are you ready to lose everything you hold dear and be reduced to wearing used boxer shorts someone donated to the Salvation Army? (visions don't come cheap, man).

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Response to Frankenvoter (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 08:06 AM

12. I'm living just fine.

No hell here.
I guess he only reveals himself at the salvation army.
I've heard it a few times. People down and our, Jesus saved them.
Must make one feel special seeing all the death and misery and Jesus comes to help them and fuck the rest.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 08:10 AM

13. Jesus comes for the most broken among us

He doesn't concern himself with people who only have themselves to thank for everything they have.

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Response to Frankenvoter (Reply #13)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 08:18 AM

14. Yeah well go to Africa where the missionaries

Say condoms are bad and people are dying of aids and children are dying by starving to death.
The salvation army will look like the Taj Mahal.

Jesus needs to get his priorities straight.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 08:27 AM

15. I have no idea why the pain that is allowed in this world is allowed

It's a convenient excuse for people to run and point to as a proof that the God we worship isn't worthy of it and you know better in these areas, and that he should maybe take your advice from time to time on the plight of humans.

Good luck with that.

Why don't you do something about it? Why don't you start a condom campaign?

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Response to Frankenvoter (Reply #15)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 08:44 AM

16. Maybe I do do something about it.

Anything is better than what the missionaries are doing.
Anything is better than what God is doing, which is nothing, because he obviously doesn't exist.

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