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Sat Dec 1, 2018, 06:21 AM

Quote of the Day

Psalm 1 King James Version (KJV)
1 Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.

2 But his delight is in the law of the Lord; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.

3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.

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nolidad Dec 2018 OP
TexMexNext Dec 2018 #1
imwithfred Dec 2018 #2
Frankenvoter Dec 2018 #3
SatansSon666 Dec 2018 #4
Frankenvoter Dec 2018 #5
SatansSon666 Dec 2018 #6
Frankenvoter Dec 2018 #7
SatansSon666 Dec 2018 #8
Frankenvoter Dec 2018 #10
SatansSon666 Dec 2018 #11
Frankenvoter Dec 2018 #13
SatansSon666 Dec 2018 #14
Frankenvoter Dec 2018 #15
SatansSon666 Dec 2018 #16
Frankenvoter Dec 2018 #17
SatansSon666 Dec 2018 #18
nolidad Dec 2018 #19
freedumb2003 Dec 2018 #9
SatansSon666 Dec 2018 #12
nolidad Dec 2018 #20
freedumb2003 Dec 2018 #21
nolidad Dec 2018 #22

Response to nolidad (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 06:49 AM

1. Nice verses Noli

I attended Lutheran schools in Jr and HS. Had to memorize 4 verses weekly, recite them from memory and give an explanation. I love me some Psalms. That said I’m not a literal believer, but the lessons I learned about life and relationships have served me well.

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Response to nolidad (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 06:53 AM

2. Well, that blows one of my theories away.

I thought it was my duty, my responsibility, my obligation, to stand in the way of those who seek to do evil, not let them get away with it.

Of course it's a lot of fun to watch them be hoisted by their own petard--which explains the function of the DUmpster on conservativecave, the primitives making asses of themselves without the help of anyone else--but sometimes they NEED to be stopped right here and now without waiting.

Illuminate, please.

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Response to imwithfred (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 07:05 AM

3. That, and the law

I believe in grace over the law, if a church is teaching grace, listen more, if they are teaching the law, go.

Jesus broke the law, he knows no matter how hard I try I will still never be as perfect as the perfection God requires, I might get 9999999.999999999% of the way there, and still never make it because I am a flawed human, flawed by nature and inbred -ism's, the big 7, jealousy, covetnous, pride, etc. so I need to accept the "paid in full" grace of what Jesus did for me on the cross, not attempt to adhere to a law I have no way of ever reaching.

That doesn't mean I go out and break the law because I know I am forgiven for beliveing in Jesus, I still try not to, I'm pretty sure that all he really asks of us, believe in him and the sacrifice he made on our behalf, and try not to sin even though in the end I'm never gonna succeed each and every time.

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Response to Frankenvoter (Reply #3)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 08:02 AM

4. You should have asked him when you had your vision.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #4)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 08:11 AM

5. He was doing all the talking

Without saying a word.

You're jealous, and that suits because the one you serve whether you want to claim to be an aithiest or not was jealous of Gods power and wanted some for himself, and that's what got the ball rolling on the situation we're in, not the temptation of Eve that came later.

You have much hate in you, and jealousy too.

I'll pray for you, because I'm sure it's the right thing to do,but also because I am sure it will piss you off have a nice day lil' nicky.

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Response to Frankenvoter (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 08:14 AM

6. Did he have a deep voice?

I picture Peewee Herman.

Oh wait.. he didn't say a word. . Nevermind.
You'd think he would have at least let you get a word in. Oh well.

Nah I'm not jealous that I'm on the right track and don't require Jesus to bother me.
I'm good to go. No intervention needed.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 08:21 AM

7. What happened in your life to sour you on God?

Were you an alter boy at one time? (I'm being serious).

In my case it was something you can ask asshole zappa zappa doo about who likes to rib me from time to time but it is what it is and I was sure my life was nothing but a cosmic joke to God, to get his giggles on at my expense and so I hated him back big time.

To me it sounds like you got some reason you're over and above in your hatred of God and Christians, and it doesn't end well man, theres only so long a person can walk around with their middle finger up to God disrespecting him and his followers every day in every way before the holy boot comes down to squash a bug and recreate it into something that says "hey man, thanks for the food today, I appreciate it" (thats all he really asks)

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Response to Frankenvoter (Reply #7)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 08:30 AM

8. What a happened in your life

To sour you on women?
I've read your posts about women on here.

I'm not sour on God. If he proves himself to exist I will believe in him. An old book doesn't cut it.
If God can't give me a reason to believe him then I literally have no reason to believe him.
It's that simple.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #8)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 08:42 AM

10. Not all women, AMERICAN women

And not all of them, just the type like my last GF who'd say things like "I like diamond earrings" (hint, hint) and then as I'm walking out the room "and I don't like small rocks either".

Yeah, well I dont like cavernous pussies I can crawl up in and have a ciggarette when I'm done if Id like but yet here we are and you still think you're worth the wine and dine.

Everything a woman natuarlly wants is put on steroids in America, shelter, security, etc.

And so I can say "I'm self employed" they'll say "maybe, but it's not like you're Bill Gates self employed, geeez"

I can say "I own my own place, it's paid for" and she'll say "yeah but it's a trailer, get real, it's not like it's Mara Lago"

On and on down the list, they want it all and they want the cadillac version of it too. That doesn't mean I'm not out there, I just met a girl for coffee yesterday whos a surgical nurse and she fits all of what I want, she makes more money than me, she has her own place and all she needs, she only needs me for one thing and thats the way I like it.

I've been through the contortions on this issue the biggest issue was that no girl would have me before I was 2 months short of 31, laugh about it all you want like asshole zappa, but it soured me on them, you betcha, especially when I see who they wil stay with and treat them like shit and yet they still claim they love them.

So yes, AMERICAN women have issue they need to address themselves before I can say I just love em love em love em, but Mexican women, or latino in general, I'm thinking of taking a ride to the border and scooping one up.

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Response to Frankenvoter (Reply #10)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 08:48 AM

11. So not much luck with women then.

That's fine.
Certainly not the woman's fault, but you keep on blaming them all you want.

God didn't do anything to me. He doesn't exist. So I can't be sour towards him.
I can't hate him or love him.
He simply does not exist.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #11)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 08:56 AM

13. Maybe but you got a special kind of tweaking for Christians

I mean you don't just let a discussion happen you get in there and say things like "your God doesn't exist its all a fairy tale" (written generically just now by me) and that's gonna enact a response, it's almost like athiests are in a battle to remove the faith of people in the way people with faith would like you to have some and so you go through your point by points as to why you're convinced there is no God, and you hope that one day someone will come to you and say something like "I left my church, you convinced me, there is no God".

I'm not sure why athiests get so bent out of shape at even the mention of God.

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Response to Frankenvoter (Reply #13)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 09:01 AM

14. Bent out of shape? No.

Wondering how people in the 21st century can still believe in it is more like it.
Seriously. In 4000 years god hasn't done a thing to prove he is real.
Not a fucking thing.
If u want to believe in old books of mythology as being fact, that's up to you. I certainly won't try to stop you. I'll make fun of it though. From time to time. Because it's funny.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #14)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 09:32 AM

15. He came to me on one of the darkest days of my life

And yet you're gonna say "In 4000 years god hasn't done a thing to prove he is real."

He did to me, and so I'm thinking you're having the same problem I did which is "why all the suffering?" "Why do you allow it?"

I mean you look at things people go through in their lifetimes and to be told it's "God's plan" that just doesn't quite cut it.

It doubly makes me wonder because I've had those dreams, not just visions, I am convinced what we are experienced is pre planned and yet we have free will those two cant really match up as far as I can tell but I give any wondering about it over to God because he sees what I cant.

It is also why I see our lives as a form of hell, I think we did something to piss God off and as punishment we got sentenced to life, because in the end we're only gonna have one thing to hold onto and that's the FAITH that it isn't the end, that God's gonna be there to pull us through just as the doctor did when we were born.

I think we are at the top level of hell, I think starting off as a bacteria, and then a virus, and then a bug, and then a bird, going on and up the food chain, being eaten each and every time too. Ever seen a bird eating tarantula? Ugggghhh, just uggghhhh.

And so I'm a heretical Christian, I believe in Jesus, BECAUSE HE CAME TO ME, but I dont go to church, Christians en masse give me the same -ism's they give you, they're too milk toast and the music sucks, so I'm also taking it on faith the music will be better on the other side.

But being in hell, what if someone who gets the treatment, whatever that happens to be, was someone who dished it out in a previous life and is suffering the payback? It's just a humanly limited thought as to why God would allow it, I really dont know but I don't like the "God's will" argument too much either, even though I generally pray for acceptance of Gods will because it almost always is opposed to what it is I want.

I've got more than one reason for believing in God, theres just a lot of things I have to take on faith that he knows why whatever happens does.

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Response to Frankenvoter (Reply #15)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 09:37 AM

16. He came to you but that doesn't mean anything.

It doesn't make hell real.
It doesn't make heaven real.
It doesn't make anything real. Only to you.
I don't believe he came to you, but I can't prove he didn't.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #16)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 09:41 AM

17. I'm pretty sure that's what it is

(Jealousy)

Keep bitching at him though, he'll come to you soon enough and prove to you he exists.

That correction though, I suppose I'll also pray he doesn't do you like he did me (it wasn't fun leading up to the meeting).

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Response to Frankenvoter (Reply #17)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 09:52 AM

18. No. I'm not jealous. That doesn't even make sense.

I'm on the right track. He has no reason to come to me.
I'm not jealous of someone that says they had a vision of Jesus. Not one bit. So much for free will.
Good for you though.
I'm just happy knowing Jesus doesn't feel the need to intervene in my life.
I'm good to go.

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Response to Frankenvoter (Reply #3)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 05:47 PM

19. Amen

Jesus never broke the Mosaic Law- he obeyed it to the fullest!

Which now obey the Law of the Spirit which has set us free from the Law of sin and death (the Mosaic Law.

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Response to nolidad (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 08:32 AM

9. Doesn't anyone on this board freaking sleep?

 

Nice quote noli.

You are wise not to engage ss666 on his mocking of Christianity,

Like the old saying goes:

"God is dead" -- Nietzsche 1882

"Nietzsche is dead" -- God 1900

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Response to freedumb2003 (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 08:56 AM

12. He has. Until I handed his ass to him

Several times a day and he put me on ignore.
Especially in the science forum.
Young earth creationists are funny.

Edit.
Yes I do sleep.
But I get up around 4am eastern time every day.
The wife likes morning sex and I head over to the business to get things ready while she goes for her run.

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Response to freedumb2003 (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 05:49 PM

20. Thank You !

I gave hom l;ots of time to try to get into honest conversations, but he is not interested in that.

So I guess I will keep him on ignore. I may pull it from time to time just to see if he is willing.

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Response to nolidad (Reply #20)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 05:55 PM

21. He is not

 

Outside of items of science and particularly in items of faith he is just a typical snide smug atheist.

We all die and eventually answer for our lives.

You may be wrong about evolution but that is because you lead with your heart and not your head. I find that not to be a fault of character but one of classification.

In matters theological your heart and head are in great alignment.

I have decided not to discuss TToE with you anymore are it is pointless for both of us. I say that with kindness my friend.

I appreciate your thoughts and scriptures and many are very on point for the times.

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Response to freedumb2003 (Reply #21)

Sun Dec 2, 2018, 08:50 AM

22. Thank you!

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