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Mon Dec 3, 2018, 09:55 AM

Was Oswald a Left Winger?

Someone recently made that claim in the forum.

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Reply Was Oswald a Left Winger? (Original post)
oflguy Dec 2018 OP
Gunslinger201 Dec 2018 #1
oflguy Dec 2018 #3
Gunslinger201 Dec 2018 #6
oflguy Dec 2018 #8
oflguy Dec 2018 #12
imwithfred Dec 2018 #2
oflguy Dec 2018 #4
imwithfred Dec 2018 #5
oflguy Dec 2018 #7
oflguy Dec 2018 #11
JaimeBondoJr Dec 2018 #9
oflguy Dec 2018 #10
Bubba Dec 2018 #13
oflguy Dec 2018 #14

Response to oflguy (Original post)

Mon Dec 3, 2018, 10:10 AM

1. Yes, Straight up Commie

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 3, 2018, 10:29 AM

3. Why do you say that?

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Response to oflguy (Reply #3)

Mon Dec 3, 2018, 10:42 AM

6. He Left America to live in Soviet Russia

Married a Russian Woman

Was big in the movement supporting Castro’s Cuba

Passed out Flyers supporting Far Left Causes

Lee Harvey Oswald (October 18, 1939 – November 24, 1963) was an American Marxist and former U.S. Marine who assassinated United States President John F. Kennedy on November 22, 1963. Oswald was honorably discharged from the Marine Corps and defected to the Soviet Union in October 1959. He lived in the Belarusian city of Minsk until June 1962, when he returned to the United States with his Russian wife, Marina, and eventually settled in Dallas

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #6)

Mon Dec 3, 2018, 11:51 AM

8. Does this sound like a defector?

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In April, 1955, Oswald's Marine Air Control Squadron 1 was deployed to the naval Air Facility at Atsugi, Japan, then reassigned to Marine Aircraft Group 11. Upon arriving in Japan, the young Marine was sent about twenty-five miles southwest of Tokyo to the air base at Atsugi, home of the First Marine Aircraft Wing - and one of two bases where the then top-secret U-2 spy plane flights were originating. Also at Atsugi was an innocuous group of buildings housing what was known only as the "Joint Technical Advisory Group." In reality, this was the CIA main operational base in the Far East and speculation has arisen that this is where the young Oswald entered the real world of spying.

During his duty hours, Oswald sat in a hot, crowded, semicircular radar control room known as the "bubble" and intently watched his radarscope for signs of Russian or Chinese aircraft crossing into Allied airspace. The job's monotony was broken only by an occasional unidentified aircraft and the strange plane code-named "Race Car."

The radar operators would overhear Race Car asking for wind information at 90,000 feet. They at first thought this was some sort of joke, since the world altitude record at that time was was only slightly more than 65,000 and the radar height-finding antenna read only up to 45,000.

However, slowly the men of Oswald's unit, Marine Air Control Squadron No. 1, realized that they were overhearing conversations from the strange-looking aircraft that they would see wheeled out of a large nearby hangar and scream into the air. When asked about the craft, the officers would say only that it was a "utility plane." The men didn't know this utility plane, or U-2, was being used to penetrate Soviet and Chinese airspace to photograph military and industrial targets....

Oswald told a friend at the time that he was having an affair with a Japanese girl who worked as a hostess in a Tokyo night club called the Queen Bee.
This was an intriguing connection indeed, for the Queen Bee was one of the three most expensive nightspots in Tokyo. An evening at the Queen Bee could cost up to $100. It catered especially to officers and pilots - including U-2 pilots, according to author Edward Jay Epstein. It was believed that the hostesses of the Queen Bee, one hundred of the most beautiful women in Tokyo, were using their charms to gain information from American servicemen.

It was a decidedly odd meeting place for Oswald, who was making less than $85 a month, with much of that being sent back to help support his mother.
Was the poor Marine private Oswald being used to gather intelligence?......The answer to this question may have come when the author/researcher Mark Lane interviewed one of Oswald's former Marine pals from Atsugi.

David Bucknell, who was never interviewed by the Warren Commission, told of an incident in which he and Oswald went for beers at a bar near Santa Ana, California, where they were both stationed in 1959. While sitting there, the two Marines were approached by two women who engaged them in conversation. According to Bucknell, later that day Oswald said this incident reminded him of a similar experience at Atsugi. According to Oswald's story, he was sitting alone in a Japanese bar when an attractive woman joined him and began asking questions regarding his work at Atsugi. Since his work involved the highly secret U-2 plane, Oswald reported this meeting to his superior officer. Soon this officer arranged a meeting between Oswald and a man in civilian clothes. Oswald told Bucknell the man explained that Oswald could do his country a great service by giving false information to the woman, a known KGB agent. Oswald agreed and thus became an Intelligence operative. Oswald said he had been encouraged to continue meeting the woman and was given money to spend at the Queen Bee. (Jim Marrs, CROSSFIRE, p.102).

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Response to oflguy (Reply #8)

Mon Dec 3, 2018, 01:47 PM

12. Also

Anybody that knows anything about Oswald knows he spoke Russian very well, having been taught by the Marines. In his so-called "diary," he implies he does not know Russian very well and was buying books to self-teach himself Russian. That is a dead giveaway the diary is fake. Handwriting experts have determined the "diary" was written in one or two sessions.
Marina testified she suspected Oswald was a spy because he took daily notes, all written in English (which Marina could not read) and he kept these notes very secret from her. (Marina's father (Klavdia Prusakova) was a Russian intelligence officer)
One curiosity is the "broken" English Oswald used to write his so-called "diary." What was that all about?

By the way, Oswald never did renounce his US citizenship.

The Marines don't spend their time and money teaching people Russian for the fun of it.

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Response to oflguy (Original post)

Mon Dec 3, 2018, 10:15 AM

2. Of course. He seemed to like Fidel Castro a lot.

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Response to imwithfred (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 3, 2018, 10:29 AM

4. Why do you say he liked Castro?

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Response to oflguy (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 3, 2018, 10:32 AM

5. Maybe you're too young, but he did form that

"Fair Play for Cuba" organization, and tried getting there, which is why he was down in Mexico before the assassination (one couldn't go to Cuba from the United States at the time).

EDIT: Oops, it wasn't formed by him. But he was apparently its most active member.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Play_for_Cuba_Committee

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Response to imwithfred (Reply #5)

Mon Dec 3, 2018, 10:45 AM

7. Lets see what the woman Oswald planned to marry and to live in Mexico with says.

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1963, May 27 - Around lunchtime, Lee showed up and obtained permission from Monaghan for us to leave the building for two hours. The last time Lee had pulled this stunt, he told Monaghan we had to go see "a film about clandestine matters." The film was, in fact, Dr. No, which we finally got to see together.
I had no idea what Lee had up his sleeve because it was not a Friday, when things were more relaxed at Reily's. It was a Monday, the busiest day in the Reily work week. So what was Lee up to? Once we were out of the building, Lee explained that he needed me to buy a money order for him.
"You now have a bank account," he said. "So, I'd like you to take out $30 and buy me an American Express money order. Don't worry, I'll pay you back right away. I have to rent an office for the FPCC, and I don't want a clerk remembering my face., in the event that the FBI ends up nosing around. As long as you don't put your name on the thing, and you're never photographed with me, you'll be safe."
My anti-Castro friends had told me that the FPCC (Fair Play for Cuba Committee) was a pro-Castro organization, so I pelted Lee with questions about his rationale
"It's a ploy," Lee explained, as he walked. "We're out to shut down the FPCC. They're not on the list of subversive organizations yet. But HUAC wants to put them there." Lee explained that joining their organization and then overtly acting like a Communist Castro supporter, he'd give HUAC a reason to ban the organization as subversive. "To do it right I need to rent an office, though we'll never hold a meeting there."
"Why rent an office at all then?" I asked him.
"It's needed to get started," he answered. A money order receipt number would 'prove' to FPCC headquarters that a donation was used to pay the rent, should a representative come to New Orleans after the office closed down: Lee didn't intend to have it open more than a month. Both the janitor and Sam Newman (the owner of Banister's building) knew Lee was actually Banister's man, so there would be no long-term lease to sign. (Judyth Vary Baker, ME & LEE, p.315).

It is noteworthy that Judyth and Oswald were hired by the William B. Reily Coffee Company on the same day, and both were fired from the same place on the same day. William Boatner Reily, who was the king of Rex in 1982, and Alton Ochsner, who was the king of Rex in 1948, were both ardent anti-communists. Both employed Oswald at different times. Also, when Oswald went to Dallas, Oswald worked at the Texas School Book Depository. When Oswald was introduced to his coworkers, his boss said, "This is Lee Oswald. He works for the CIA." The building was owned by an old ex-Civil Air Patrol commander, an organization Oswald once belonged to.

But then, these are all purely coincidental.

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Response to imwithfred (Reply #5)

Mon Dec 3, 2018, 01:13 PM

11. So you know

Oswald was working with Guy Banister, a strict anti-communist who was organizing and training Cuban exiles for the CIAs Bay of Pigs Invasion. When Banister found out Oswald had stamped 544 Camp Street on the back of Fair Play for Cuba pamplets he was handing out, he got upset with Oswald, since that address was around the corner from his address IN THE SAME BUILDING as his.

For someone that was supposedly a Leftist, its interesting he only hung around far right people.

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Response to oflguy (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 3, 2018, 11:54 AM

9. I don't say it, but the Washington Post did...

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Response to JaimeBondoJr (Reply #9)

Mon Dec 3, 2018, 12:00 PM

10. OK?

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Response to oflguy (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2018, 03:53 AM

13. Read Stephen King's Novel "11/22/63."

It's a work of fiction, of course. In the intro, King claims he did extensive research into Oswald and the events leading up to Kennedy's assassination. I believe him.

Oswald (Claims King) believed that in the Soviet Union, the doctor and the janitor were equals, and that was an ideal the U. S. should strive for.

As I understand, Oswald didn't exactly "defect" to Russia. He moved there, and stayed for several years. If he had defected, he woulda encountered difficulty when he returned to the United States.

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Response to Bubba (Reply #13)

Tue Dec 4, 2018, 05:59 AM

14. Judge Judy would never accept hearsay

But even if he did believe that, it doesn't prove he shot Kennedy (who he liked, by the way, according to his lover)

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