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Fri Dec 21, 2018, 04:56 PM

The Nativity Scene at ICE headquarters in Washington

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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/21/us/church-nativity-trump-immigration.html

Oklahoma Church Erects Fence Around Nativity Scene to Protest Trump Border Policies

By Christina Caron

Dec. 21, 2018

The nativity scene at Fellowship Congregational Church in Tulsa, Okla., looks a little different this year: There is a chain-link fence surrounding Mary, Joseph and the baby Jesus.



The scene is both an acknowledgment that the Christmas story is a migration story, and also a response to the Trump administration’s efforts to discourage people from seeking refuge in the United States, the Rev. Chris Moore, the church’s lead pastor, said in an interview on Thursday.



“An angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream, saying, ‘Arise, take the young child and his mother, flee to Egypt, and stay there until I bring you word; for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him,’” the New King James Version of Matthew 2:13-14 says. “When he arose, he took the young child and His mother by night and departed for Egypt.”

There are migrants today who are “fleeing the same kinds of oppression and threats to their safety that the holy family was fleeing,” Mr. Moore said.



The nativity fence — like similar displays this year at other places of worship — alludes in part to the practice of separating migrant children from their parents, which led to about 3,000 family separations at the United States’ southern border. In June, Mr. Trump signed an order rescinding the practice.




The Obama administration and earlier administrations also detained immigrant families and children, but did not have a policy to separate children from their families as a means of deterring other migrants from crossing the border.

Fellowship Congregational Church has not been alone in protesting immigration policy under the Trump administration. Progressive churches elsewhere in the country have used their nativity scenes to make similar political statements this year.

At St. Susanna Parish in Dedham, Mass., a statue of the baby Jesus was placed in a cage and displayed this month. The three wise men could be seen gazing at him, separated by a tall barrier.

In that display, Jesus represented the children being separated from their parents at the border, the parish’s pastor, Father Stephen Josoma told CBS News, and the wise men represented migrants stuck behind a border wall.

“Jesus was about taking care of one another,” he said. “This is not the way to take care of one another.”




Christ Church Cathedral in Indianapolis displayed its nativity scene months earlier, in July, installing barbed wire above the fence that surrounded the holy family in protest of President Trump’s zero tolerance immigration policy.

“I know what the Bible said,” the Rev. Stephen Carlsen, dean and rector of Christ Church Cathedral, told USA Today at the time. “We’re supposed to love our neighbors as ourselves.”



They sang and prayed. And when buses drove by, they became silent. Mr. Moore later recounted during a sermon to his congregation that they believed the buses held immigrants who had sought refuge and instead found “a kind of prison.”

“I do think the church has a very important role to play in the political life,” he said on Thursday. “It’s the partisanship that I don’t want to be involved in.”

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357blackhawk Dec 21 #4
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Response to bobsal (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2018, 05:02 PM

1. Another empty Lefty protest that no one cares about.

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Response to bobsal (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2018, 05:04 PM

2. Needs armed guards

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Response to bobsal (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2018, 06:07 PM

3. How many electoral votes did Jesus win?

Less than 270 so he can't set immigration policy.

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Response to bobsal (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2018, 06:55 PM

4. Nice virtue signaling,

but not remotely the same. First, they were not refugees. They went from one city to another within Judea for census purposes. Joseph was from Bethlehem but living in Nazareth. That is like going from Oakland to Vallejo.
If referring to Egypt, which was part of the Roman Empire as was Israel, and would not be crossing international borders. They would also be asylum seekers, not economic migrants.

The ironic thing is that the same people who try this analogy, would call Jesus and family colonial occupiers in their own land. Since the family were Jews, today it would be a criminal offense to sell them a house or land in the city he was born in, since Bethlehem is in the West Bank under the rule of the Palestinian Authority.

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Response to 357blackhawk (Reply #4)

Sat Dec 22, 2018, 01:16 AM

5. True, not the same.

That census never happened though.
It was just a way to get Jesus in the right place at the right time.

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