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Mon Dec 24, 2018, 11:06 AM

When was Jesus really born? (Year, not Month)

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Reply When was Jesus really born? (Year, not Month) (Original post)
Cold Warrior Dec 24 OP
MumblyPeg Dec 24 #1
Cold Warrior Dec 24 #2
SatansSon666 Dec 24 #3
Cold Warrior Dec 24 #4
SatansSon666 Dec 24 #5
nolidad Dec 24 #6
Bozo Haram Dec 24 #7
nolidad Dec 24 #8
Cold Warrior Dec 24 #9
nolidad Dec 25 #10

Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2018, 11:12 AM

1. Must be a difficult time of year for you. Poor thing

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Response to MumblyPeg (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 24, 2018, 11:19 AM

2. Actually, no. I always enjoy Christmas as do most atheists

The video is simply an interesting discussion on the historical accuracy of Luke and takes no position on either the existence of Jesus or on his divinity. Just a bit of history.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 24, 2018, 12:30 PM

3. You would think Christians would be interested

In learning as much as they can about their beloved Jesus.
Not in his case.
Blind worship, just because.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #3)

Mon Dec 24, 2018, 12:38 PM

4. I'm surprised. Well, not really

The video is a completely inoffensive discussion of the timelines put forth by Luke. NOTHING about it is offensive to anyone with any historical curiousity.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 24, 2018, 12:41 PM

5. Yeah. Mumbles never watched it.

He just had to try to get a shot in at you and totally miss the mark.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2018, 04:05 PM

6. According to teh gregorian calendar we now use--

1` AD, but when you factor in the changes from the Julian Calendar- Old roman reckon ing and Jesus dating, plus clues from Scripture and writings that corroborate scripture, Jesus was born between 4 and 6 B.C. by the current calendar!

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Response to nolidad (Reply #6)

Mon Dec 24, 2018, 05:49 PM

7. The Gregorian calendar only changed the leapday

When it was introduced in the English-speaking world in the 18th/19th century, there was an adjustment of about 11 days or so to correct for the accumulated inaccuracies of the Julian calendar.

A four to six year adjustment is complete fantasy. It's just that when the original calendar was devised they eventually determined that it didn't match as to when certain people were supposed alive (Herod) who turned out to be dead by 1AD so they changed Jesus' birthdate to the ironic 4 to 6 BC to compensate.

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Response to Bozo Haram (Reply #7)

Mon Dec 24, 2018, 06:42 PM

8. If you want, when I have time, I can find and link

you to all ther nuances between all teh calendars and Roman and Jewish dating etc.

I am a little fuzzy on the significance of each, but each change in calendar help move the date around.

Best guess 4-6 B.C. in late Sept, earl.y October.

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Response to Bozo Haram (Reply #7)

Mon Dec 24, 2018, 07:24 PM

9. Correct. As the video points out

This was not the age of the internets. When the Luke authors, misinterpreting the word “Nazarene,” decided that there needed to be some rationale for Jesus to be born in Bethlehem and invented the whole census thingie, they counted on (or were themselves ignorant of) the fact that the dates were not accurate but matched in the vaguely general scheme of things. Of course, an Empire-wide census that required people to return to their birthplaces is pure fiction as well.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #9)

Tue Dec 25, 2018, 09:54 AM

10. Being benighted does not make you a scholar!

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There was no empire wide census that called for mass movement of people. That was only in Israel as required by Jewish Law. that is your misinterpreting basic linguistics and history.

Is it hard on your soul to harbor this much misinformation about Jesus the Lord?

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