Beliefsjebus

Mon Jan 7, 2019, 09:52 AM

Jesus, the habitual liar.

It's one thing to tell a lie.
It's another to repeat it over and over again.
We all know that God doesn't grant every prayer. He doesn't move mountains if you simply ask him.
Why would Jesus continue spreading these falsehoods? Reading the scripture it doesn't say God will consider your prayers, Jesus says he'll answer them all.
Even Christians know that isn't true.
So why would Jesus lie multiple times about prayer?


And Jesus answered and said to them, “Truly I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what was done to the fig tree, but even if you say to this mountain, `Be taken up and cast into the sea,’ it will happen.  “And all things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive.” (Matthew 21:21-22)

Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.  For everyone who asks, receives; and the one who seeks, finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened. (Matthew 7-8)

Again I say to you, that if two of you agree on earth about anything that they may ask, it shall be done for them by My Father who is in heaven.  For where two or three have gathered together in My name, I am there in their midst. (Matthew 18:19-20)

Amen, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be lifted up and thrown into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart but believes that what he says will happen, it shall be done for him.  Therefore I tell you, all that you ask for in prayer, believe that you will receive it and it shall be yours. (Mark 11:24-25)

And I tell you, ask and you will receive; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.  For everyone who asks, receives; and the one who seeks, finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened. (Luke 11-13)

And whatever you ask in my name, I will do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son.  If you ask anything of me in my name, I will do it. (John 14:13-14)

If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask for whatever you want and it will be done for you. (John 15)

It was not you who chose me, but I who chose you and appointed you to go and bear fruit that will remain, so that whatever you ask the Father in my name he may give you. (John 15:16)

On that day you will not question me about anything.  Amen, amen, I say to you, whatever you ask the Father in my name he will give you.  Until now you have not asked anything in my name; ask and you will receive, so that your joy may be complete. (John 16:23-24)

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Reply Jesus, the habitual liar. (Original post)
SatansSon666 Jan 2019 OP
freedumb2003 Jan 2019 #1
Gunslinger201 Jan 2019 #2
SatansSon666 Jan 2019 #3
freedumb2003 Jan 2019 #4
SatansSon666 Jan 2019 #5
freedumb2003 Jan 2019 #6
SatansSon666 Jan 2019 #7
Cold Warrior Jan 2019 #8
SatansSon666 Jan 2019 #9
Cold Warrior Jan 2019 #10
SatansSon666 Jan 2019 #11
Cold Warrior Jan 2019 #12
SatansSon666 Jan 2019 #13
freedumb2003 Jan 2019 #14
SatansSon666 Jan 2019 #15
Squeek Jan 2019 #16
SatansSon666 Jan 2019 #17
Lowrider1984 Jan 2019 #18

Response to SatansSon666 (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2019, 10:06 AM

1. Just as nolidad should stay out of science, so should you stay our of theology

 

You are in over your head.

God does not grant every prayer. All of the verses re: God granting, it is His Love and the afterlife of being with Him.

God is not Aladdin's Genie.

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Response to freedumb2003 (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 7, 2019, 10:11 AM

2. God is not Aladdin's Genie.

I’m going to borrow that

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Response to freedumb2003 (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 7, 2019, 10:11 AM

3. Yeah. That's not what Jesus said though.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #3)

Mon Jan 7, 2019, 10:16 AM

4. That is what he said

 

There is a context which atheists are unable to fathom.

Like I said -- you are as far here out of your element as nolidad is in TToE.

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Response to freedumb2003 (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 7, 2019, 10:19 AM

5. Ah yes. Context.

So where is the verse(s) that says Jesus didn't mean what he said all those times?
Where does he say what you said he means in his words?

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 7, 2019, 10:24 AM

6. He mans what He says, but only the enlightened understand

 

Really -- this is over your head.

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Response to freedumb2003 (Reply #6)

Mon Jan 7, 2019, 10:29 AM

7. So you are enlightened enough to understand.

But not enlightened enough to explain it.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #7)

Mon Jan 7, 2019, 10:57 AM

8. Be careful! You REALLY dont want to argue the Bible with this guy

I did once. Asked him three pretty simple questions about Christianity. That was the last I heard from him.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #8)

Mon Jan 7, 2019, 10:58 AM

9. That was him?

Heh

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #9)

Mon Jan 7, 2019, 11:02 AM

10. Yep. Ask him about the Documentary Hypothesis of the authorship of the Torah

You’ll never hear from him again.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #10)

Mon Jan 7, 2019, 11:04 AM

11. After he enlightens me on the context

Of jesus' habitual lying.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #11)

Mon Jan 7, 2019, 11:14 AM

12. He also has inside knowledge of whom Yahweh is sending straight to Hell

Of course, it’s those evil libruls like RBG...

freedumb2003 (4,783 posts)
2. satan comes to collect his own soon

Her ego will result in another Trump SCOTUS selection.

God will not be mocked.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #12)

Mon Jan 7, 2019, 11:19 AM

13. Lol.

Must be cool to read the minds on God and Satan.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #13)

Mon Jan 7, 2019, 12:19 PM

14. I am more omnicient than most remember

 

As for lukewarm pussy -- meh. I don't suffer fools lightly.

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Response to freedumb2003 (Reply #14)

Mon Jan 7, 2019, 12:30 PM

15. Should be easy enough to explain the context.

Being so enlightened and all.

In what context does being enlightened enable you to get god to throw a mountain into the sea, simply by asking for it?

You admitted Jesus meant what he said.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #7)

Mon Jan 7, 2019, 02:44 PM

16. My favorites are

the ones who, when questioned on things in the Bible, use that very same bible to "explain".


Uhhh...yeah. That was helpful

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Response to Squeek (Reply #16)

Mon Jan 7, 2019, 02:49 PM

17. Lol. Yeah, they have to.

This guy tells me I'm in over my head.
Claims to be enlightened and can't even answer a simple question.
Then he goes in another thread, calls me an asshole and a "nothing".

Lmfao..

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Response to SatansSon666 (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2019, 05:19 PM

18. I once asked my Grandpappy if Jesus answered every prayer.

He said "Yes, boy, He does. But, sometimes the answer is NO."

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