Beliefsjebus

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 05:39 AM

Torture devices used by Catholics.

https://amredeemed.com/signs-of-the-end/10-torture-devices-used-by-the-catholic-church-in-the-inquisition/

Disclaimer: Not ALL catholics used torture devices and they weren't the only ones.

This is just an example of what happens when you give religious groups too much power.
Violations of human rights follow immediately after.
We see it today with Islam. They are a couple of hundred years behind, but they learned from the best.

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Reply Torture devices used by Catholics. (Original post)
SatansSon666 Feb 2019 OP
TM999 Feb 2019 #1
SatansSon666 Feb 2019 #3
TM999 Feb 2019 #17
Cold Warrior Feb 2019 #23
Zappa Dappa Doo Feb 2019 #35
fszwfnj Feb 2019 #2
SatansSon666 Feb 2019 #4
fszwfnj Feb 2019 #5
SatansSon666 Feb 2019 #7
fszwfnj Feb 2019 #18
foia Feb 2019 #6
SatansSon666 Feb 2019 #8
imwithfred Feb 2019 #9
SatansSon666 Feb 2019 #12
Gunslinger201 Feb 2019 #10
SatansSon666 Feb 2019 #11
Gunslinger201 Feb 2019 #13
SatansSon666 Feb 2019 #14
Gunslinger201 Feb 2019 #15
SatansSon666 Feb 2019 #16
quad489 Feb 2019 #19
SatansSon666 Feb 2019 #21
quad489 Feb 2019 #20
SatansSon666 Feb 2019 #22
quad489 Feb 2019 #24
TM999 Feb 2019 #25
SatansSon666 Feb 2019 #26
TM999 Feb 2019 #27
SatansSon666 Feb 2019 #28
TM999 Feb 2019 #29
SatansSon666 Feb 2019 #30
TM999 Feb 2019 #31
SatansSon666 Feb 2019 #32
TM999 Feb 2019 #33
SatansSon666 Feb 2019 #37
TM999 Feb 2019 #40
SatansSon666 Feb 2019 #41
Cold Warrior Feb 2019 #34
SatansSon666 Feb 2019 #38
Daves Not Here Man Feb 2019 #42
Bubba Feb 2019 #36
SatansSon666 Feb 2019 #39

Response to SatansSon666 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 05:49 AM

1. Still peddling the myths promulgated by the Protestants I see.

Nope, sorry, the ones who used torture devices were the Protestant witch hunters.

The Inquisition was a Canon tribunal, much like today's courts. It was only after an individual was found to be in violation of both Church and secular laws would they be turned over to the secular authorities. It is under the secular authorities that this type of torture did occur, and it was hardly uniform.

All in all, latest actual scholarly research shows that in Spain alone less than 900 individuals were turned over to secular authorities over several hundred years of the Inquisition. Out of those, a smaller percentage were actually tortured and/or put to death.

I know, it is hard to keep that bigoted rage hard-on in the face of truth, so just ignore it like you do every thing else.

I can provide you some reading material to correct your ignorance, but we both know you won't read it.

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Response to TM999 (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 05:53 AM

3. We all know you'll never admit fault in regards to your beloved catholic church

They used those torture devices on people.
Deny it all you want.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 08:06 AM

17. I am quite critical of the Church.

Bergoglio is a material heretic and Peronist. That has led to him being involved in financial corruption and scandal.

We have an excessive amount of abusive homosexual prelates into pederasty. It was covered up by that same clique harming far too many underage boys.

I have facts on my side and you as usual have nothing but emotion.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:52 AM

23. Our Catholic Colleague has a lot invested in the RC Church

that is after he had a lot invested in Buddhism and after he had a lot invested in Episcopalianism. After all, according to his stated belief...

“This is the Catholic faith, which except a man believe faithfully and steadfastly he cannot be saved.”

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #23)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:42 PM

35. Now I'm even more confused. I thought that

several years ago, prior to his current incarnation, he was as an atheist and a supporter of Bernie Sanders.

No?

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Response to SatansSon666 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 05:50 AM

2. Pretty much giving any ideologically driven group too much power and

Bad stuff happens. Catholics were pikers compared to Communists.

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Response to fszwfnj (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 05:56 AM

4. Right. That's why I put the disclaimer.

Remember though. They were claiming to be morally superior and acting on behalf of the Lord.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 06:00 AM

5. Better than claiming moral superiority and acting on behalf of

the State. That sounds like many democrats, progressives, commies but I repeat myself.

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Response to fszwfnj (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 06:13 AM

7. Not any better.

Torture is wrong no matter who does it.
Just pointing out what happens when religious institutions have too much power.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 09:19 AM

18. Better in that less death from Catholics than

From communists.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 06:08 AM

6. There's an Inquisition museum in Lima, Peru

They have sample torture devices there. It's kind of corny though.

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Response to foia (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 06:14 AM

8. They weren't shy about it.

Fear spreads fast.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 07:00 AM

9. Oh now son, don't get all hot and bothered.

The Catholic Church has been no better, no worse, than the time and place it occupied, something of course which could be said for just about every society, culture, and organization.

The hippies, grasping at any excuse to hate, used to yap about how during medieval times, the Church burned people as witches.

Which of course is true.....but what they Hell do they think was happening outside of Europe during this witch-burning? Surely they don't think that central South America or central Asia or central Africa were paradises of civility and law and science and nongenderism and homophilia with fairness and equity for all.

I'll bet that in some respects, people in witch-burning Europe were treated with more kindness than people in non-Catholic Saudi Arabia or non-Catholic Uganda or non-Catholic Indonesia or non-Catholic Peru.

The Catholic Church has been no better, no worse, than the time and place it's occupied.

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Response to imwithfred (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 07:18 AM

12. That's why I put the disclaimer.

I said they weren't the only ones.
Doesn't excuse it.
They had power though and we're doing it under the disguise of religion.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 07:06 AM

10. Islamic Torture device in use as we speak



They also sometimes heat it up red hot

We can talk about Catholics 1000 years ago but we need to talk about Barbaric Muslims right now

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 07:17 AM

11. Yes. I sorta mentioned that.

Islam is as bad and/or worse now than the barbarian Christians of the dark ages.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #11)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 07:20 AM

13. So bottom line, Christianity and Judaism got less Violent

Islam, not so much

Islam is as dangerous to civilization as the Nazis

We need to ban and destroy Islam. It’s a Militant Political movement masquerading as a Religion

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #13)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 07:32 AM

14. Yeah. I say part of their change of heart was losing power.

Now they are pretty calm in regards to violence.
Now look at Muslim countries. Some used to be fairly progresive until fundies got power.
Places like Saudi. (Never progressive though) Human rights violations.
Other places where militants groups hell bent on pushing their brand slaughtering people.
Islam is way out there with no end in sight in those places.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #14)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 07:42 AM

15. There is no moderate Islam

These Assclowns prove it



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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #15)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 07:50 AM

16. Not if you are going to follow in to a T.

I used to work with 2 Muslims that were sort of my apprentices. The one I trained still works there.
They didn't wear turbans, their wives dressed like American women. They prayed though and did their thing.
Never had a reason to think they'd be violent.
However, deep in the back of my mind I knew that if the time ever came, if they had to choose between being passive or following what their old book says, they'd probably choose what the book says.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #11)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 09:32 AM

19. Wrong, moslems did barbaric shit back then too AND they're still doing it today. Where's Ur outrage?

"Islam is as bad and/or worse now than the barbarian Christians of the dark ages."

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Response to quad489 (Reply #19)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:26 AM

21. I never said they didn't.

I said catholics weren't the only ones.

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:07 AM

20. Yep, and you notice how the posters who bash christians all the time barely ever mention moslems...

"we need to talk about Barbaric Muslims right now"

...nor their majority silence (support?) for what ISIS etc has been doing to christians/gays/women/etc all around the world. But find some blue haired bible thumping preacher......

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Response to quad489 (Reply #20)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:28 AM

22. There are sites where I bash Islam.

Sites where there are actually Muslims.
I make fun of their pedophile prophet all the time.
You just don't hear about it because it isn't DU.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #22)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 02:13 PM

24. I'm sure you do..................

"22. There are sites where I bash Islam.
Sites where there are actually Muslims.
I make fun of their pedophile prophet all the time.
You just don't hear about it because it isn't DU."

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #22)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 02:54 PM

25. So you are just a troll then?

Got it.

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Response to TM999 (Reply #25)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 03:33 PM

26. Some people's only purpose is to be trolled.

Some don't deserve to be trolled.

Guess which one you are.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #26)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 03:52 PM

27. I am the intelligent one calling

out the trolling ignorant bigots.

Guess which one you are buttercup.

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Response to TM999 (Reply #27)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 04:11 PM

28. Well, you just explained you were the first one.

why would I have to guess?

Intelligent indeed.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #28)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 04:16 PM

29. Sleight of hand in order to avoid

your liberal alert posses buddies. They don't like when I call bigots bigots.

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Response to TM999 (Reply #29)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 04:19 PM

30. Call me whatever makes you feel good about yourself, buddy.

I read your posts here.
You insult people so much you can't even remember insulting them.
Like I showed you last time.
Then call other people trolls.
It's hilarious.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #30)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 04:37 PM

31. I call out and state facts.

That so many on the left here are of a weak mind and even weaker disposition that they feel 'insulted' is hardly my concern.

I laugh thinking how silly it is that Satan's Son is such a little snowflake and so bigoted. But hey, most anti-theists are.

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Response to TM999 (Reply #31)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 04:48 PM

32. Uh huh.

Calling people stupid, uneducated, ingorant nobodies.
You've called me those and a lot more.
That's just me. Then before you put me on ignore after a pile of insults and someone alerted on one and it got hidden.
Then you blame the person who alerted on your insults instead of being a man and taking responsibility for what you said.

I had a post hidden when I insulted someone's wife.
What did I do?
I fuckin apologized.

What do you do? Throw out another insulting post complaining about the hide and ignore the person you insulted.

Intelligent indeed.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #32)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 05:41 PM

33. There are a lot of extremely ignorant and uneducated leftists

here who just love to pretend they are smarter than they really are. Funny how several are anti-theists, right?

I called you a bigot because you have been a bigot here since day fucking 1.

I pull lots of folks off of ignore to give them another chance. When it becomes obvious that they are really just trolling, I tend to put them back on or just ignore their posts without the forum function.

You have a singular purpose here. If you were more erudite, intelligent, and educated, debating you on Christian topics might be interesting. But you are none of those things, just a ignorant little bigot.

I am sure this will be alerted and frankly I could give two fucks.

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Response to TM999 (Reply #33)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 06:28 AM

37. I won't alert on you, buddy.

You didn't put me on ignore because of something I did.
You put me on ignore because you couldn't Co trol your emotions when replying to me and got a post hidden.
So saying you are giving me a second chance is fucking funny. Like it was a punishment being able to laugh at you without you even knowing and you not being on my juries.

Second chance he says..

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #37)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 07:37 AM

40. See.

Arrogant and ignorant. No my little bigoted friend, I will be putting you back on Ignore yet again because you are not worth even seeing your posts populate these boards.

You are just another nobody anti-theist and bigot.

I sincerely hope you repent and see the light before you die. Otherwise, you are destined for the home of your namesake.

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Response to TM999 (Reply #40)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 07:47 AM

41. Bye bye again, TM999.

I'll continue to enjoy making fun of you while you tell everyone how incredibly smart you are and belittle everyone you don't agree with.

There is no hell. Call yourself so intelligent, yet think there is a place where souls are tortured for eternity because they don't believe in your god.
Lmao.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #28)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 06:41 PM

34. TM666 will never pass up the opportunity to tell you how intelligent he is

As him if he knows the difference between London and Liverpool. He’s got me on Ignore.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #34)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 06:30 AM

38. Maybe you'll be lucky and get a 'second chance'

Like me.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #26)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 09:05 AM

42. oh fuk yeah

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #22)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 02:53 AM

36. Do You Feel Comfortable

Giving us a link to one or more of those sites??

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Response to Bubba (Reply #36)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 06:49 AM

39. Reddit.. facebook

You can start there.

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