Beliefsjebus

Sat May 18, 2019, 05:32 AM

Incredible proof for why you should have faith in the bible.

When someone says they have proof that you should have faith, you know they are fucking stupid. If you had proof, you wouldn't need faith. Lmao.
Fucking loons.

http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2016/march/incredible-proof-for-why-you-should-have-faith-in-the-bible

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Reply Incredible proof for why you should have faith in the bible. (Original post)
SatansSon666 May 2019 OP
MeatSandwich May 2019 #1
Cold Warrior May 2019 #2
MeatSandwich May 2019 #7
Cold Warrior May 2019 #8
MeatSandwich May 2019 #13
Cold Warrior May 2019 #17
SatansSon666 May 2019 #4
MeatSandwich May 2019 #6
SatansSon666 May 2019 #9
Squeek May 2019 #10
SatansSon666 May 2019 #11
MeatSandwich May 2019 #12
SatansSon666 May 2019 #14
MeatSandwich May 2019 #15
SatansSon666 May 2019 #16
MeatSandwich Jun 2019 #18
SatansSon666 Jun 2019 #19
MeatSandwich Jun 2019 #20
SatansSon666 Jun 2019 #21
MeatSandwich Jun 2019 #22
SatansSon666 Jun 2019 #23
Squeek May 2019 #3
SatansSon666 May 2019 #5

Response to SatansSon666 (Original post)

Sun May 19, 2019, 02:47 PM

1. I know. The actual evidence of the historic Jesus means nothing to folks like you.

It's all a big myth, right? Enjoy your blissful ignorance.

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Response to MeatSandwich (Reply #1)

Sun May 19, 2019, 03:07 PM

2. To most atheists the existence of a Jewish Zealot with the name of Jesus (or not)

is more of an academic point than anything else. Clearly, no historical contemporary records of any of the so-called miracles exist from any source outside of the Bible. One would think, for example, all of those zombies wandering around Jerusalem might have attracted the attention of historians of the day.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #2)

Mon May 20, 2019, 12:02 PM

7. We would refer to him as a radical or subversive in today's terms.

And most Christians would be against him because his teachings would probably go against the accepted orthodoxy - just as it went against the Jewish orthodoxy of the day. For example, If Jesus were alive today and said that the world would end because the Christians had turned away from God, we would all think he was crazy. That's no different than him saying he was the Son of God to the Jews of his day.

I say that because many Jews viewed him as a mere radical among many during the time when the Jews were occupied by the Roman empire. The Romans hated him because he had garnered somewhat of a following. But, historically, there's no doubt that such a person existed.

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Response to MeatSandwich (Reply #7)

Mon May 20, 2019, 12:43 PM

8. ...we would all think he was crazy...

If there was indeed an historical Jesus (and most modern scholars believe there was a Jewish preacher (zealot) by that name at around that time), perhaps he was crazy. Judaism was full of people that might be considered crazy with Abraham being the prime example.

Again, the existence of an historical figure by that name is pretty moot.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #8)

Wed May 22, 2019, 11:29 AM

13. Not according to Satan666, he says that the historical Jesus did not exist. Totally made up.

I guess by that standard, Pontious Pilot didn't exist either?

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Response to MeatSandwich (Reply #13)

Wed May 22, 2019, 01:18 PM

17. Pontius Pilate did exist as there is ample evidence of outside of the Bible

"Then in 1961, archaeologists discovered a plaque fragment at Caesarea Maritima, an ancient Roman city along the Mediterranean coast of Israel. The plaque was written in Latin and imbedded in a section of steps leading to Caesarea’s Amphitheatre. It bears a partially preserved inscription that names Pontius Pilate and his title: fifth prefect of the Roman province of Judaea, serving under Emperor Tiberius from AD 26/27 to 36/37."
https://www.quora.com/Are-there-any-sources-that-mention-Pontius-Pilate-outside-of-the-Bible

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Response to MeatSandwich (Reply #1)

Sun May 19, 2019, 10:55 PM

4. There is no proof of Jesus. None.

That's why one has to have faith.
Pretty simple, easy to understand, straight-forward language.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #4)

Mon May 20, 2019, 11:52 AM

6. The historical Jesus has a massive amount of proof. You look foolish when you say such things.

The faith part concerns the belief that he was the son of God.

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Response to MeatSandwich (Reply #6)

Tue May 21, 2019, 03:39 AM

9. no. Any contemporary evidence has a lot of doubt or are straight up forgeries.

I assume you'll mention Tacitus or Josephus. All debunked.
Not one eye witness report of Jesus outside of the bible.
Bone up on stuff before you call people foolish.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #9)

Tue May 21, 2019, 10:34 AM

10. Again....

the bible as "evidence"


I'm imagining a future where civilization has risen back up again after a few thousand years post apocalyptic war.

Someone finds books.. Wow...wizards...people flying through the air playing quidditch...cloaks of invisibility...and more....a hero named Harry Potter....and assumes it's all true.


When I think of all the stuff Jesus supposedly did, I sometimes wonder if he might have been an ancient Harry Potter or David Copperfield what with all those tricks.

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Response to Squeek (Reply #10)

Tue May 21, 2019, 10:49 AM

11. it's like saying Trucks by Stephen King is evidence for sentient machinery..

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #9)

Wed May 22, 2019, 11:26 AM

12. I always have to laugh when folks say that Tacitus and Josephus are debunked.

Besides them, (and they haven't been anywhere close to being debunked) there are other mentions of the Historical Jesus in many areas.

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Response to MeatSandwich (Reply #12)

Wed May 22, 2019, 11:37 AM

14. You said proof. "Mentions" aren't proof.

Yes, they have both been debunked.

First, they were both born after Jebus was supposed to have died. The Josephus words were added centuries later and he doesn't even mention Nazareth in his writings of all the towns in Galilee.
In fact, the evidence for Nazareth existing in Jebus' childhood has always been in doubt. The evidence of it it lousy at best and actually contradicts what the bible says about Nazareth and the laws laid out for towns in those times.

Tacitus never cites any sources and obviously never met Jebus either. He could have gotten his stories from the gospels or from Christians in the area. Nobody knows..

If you call that proof then, we'll, you are just seeing what you want to see.

Laugh away.. the facts don't give a shit.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #14)

Wed May 22, 2019, 11:53 AM

15. Actually, if you kept up with current events, you'd know that they have found

artifacts that date Nazareth to Jesus' time, with other evidence.

Josephus (you know, the one you tried to debunk) verifies the authenticity - even after the fact.

"Caiaphas was placed in a lavishly decorated ossuary upon which his full name was inscribed: “Joseph, son of Caiaphas.” Flavius Josephus also uses that name to describe Caiaphas. His tomb was buried and forgotten for centuries until workers widening a road in 1990 broke through by pure chance."

Enjoy the link.

https://listverse.com/2016/12/06/10-archaeological-relics-from-the-life-of-jesus-christ/

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Response to MeatSandwich (Reply #15)

Wed May 22, 2019, 12:58 PM

16. well..

10. Nothing says that was Jebus' home. It begs the question, a logical fallacy. Fallacies aren't proof.

9. It even admits that it isn't necessarily Jebus' brother's tomb. Not proof.

8. Finding John the Baptist doesn't prove Jebus was real. Another begging the question fallacy.

7. They found evidence of a synogoue. The bible says Jebus spoke in a synogoue, therefore Jebus is real. Can you tell me what kind of fallacy that is? It certainly isn't proof of Jebus being real. Not even close. Circular reasoning, fail.

6. Again, nothing there shows any proof that Jebus was real. It relies on the bible and begs the question. Really. . Halfway through and this is getting pathetic already.

5. The bible says Jebus got on a boat. They found a boat from that time. Therefore Jebus exists. Hahaha. . Wow.. seriously? Know ehat else? Jebus fed people fish, there are fish in the sea, therefore, Jebus is real..

4. Again, historical things that do not prove anything about Jebus. They found something that may have been mentioned in the bible and aren't even sure if that's what it is. Again, relying on the bible to prove the bible. Not proof. At all.

3. So. Even if Pontius was real, it doesn't say " the guy who had Jebus crucified". Evidence that places and people or places mentioned in the bible are real are not evidence that Jebus was real and certainly not proof. Let's say.. Jebus went to Jerusalem, Jerusalem is real, therefore Jebus is real..This is getting ridiculous.

2. Again, proving someone else may have been real doesn't not prove Jebus was real just because it's mentioned in the bible. Fucking pathetic.

1. They found evidence another jew was crucified. So.
It seems there is more evidence for this guy than there is for Jebus.

Really. Nothing in that list is proof of Jebus. If that is what you consider proof of something, well... lmao

You really need to bone up on shit before you call others foolish. I mean really. That was just ridiculous

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #16)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 12:58 PM

18. Most of what you have rendered here is your opinion. Not surprising given your pure hatred of

Christianity. I expected you to spin as much as possible. You didn't disappoint. Fucking pathetic, for certain.

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Response to MeatSandwich (Reply #18)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 01:04 PM

19. Nothing there is evidence of Jesus.

I didn;t spin anything.

Finding a boat from Jesus' time and saying the bible says Jesus got on a boat isn't fucking evidence of Jesus.
Everything on that list is the same type of nonsense.
lmfao..

sad.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #19)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 02:09 PM

20. OMG, you are like a child. But keep spinning.

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Response to MeatSandwich (Reply #20)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 02:14 PM

21. Did you read the list?

Nothing on it is proof of anything. You told me to have fun with the list, like it had some proof in it.

So tell me.
How is finding an old boat proof of Jesus?
Lmao

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #21)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 11:13 AM

22. Bullshit spin on your part. They used to say there is no proof that

Nazareth existed, or Joseph existed, or Pilot existed. All debunked. But keep at it with your eyes closed. As more and more evidence surfaces, you'll just spin that away too. Sad, really.

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Response to MeatSandwich (Reply #22)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 04:13 PM

23. There still isn't definitive proof that Nazareth existed at the time of Jesus.

The tombs are the most damning piece of evidence.
I'm not spinning anything.
They are spinning it all to hell.

How does finding a 1st century boat prove that Jesus existed?

Easy question.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Original post)

Sun May 19, 2019, 09:39 PM

3. My very favorite

bit of nonsense is when they use the bible to prove the "truth" of religion.


See? The bible says it's true! What more do you need?

sigh....

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Response to Squeek (Reply #3)

Sun May 19, 2019, 10:56 PM

5. yup. the bible is true because it says it's true.

It's the word of God because it says it's the word of God.
People are fine with that. .
Lol

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