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Sat Mar 18, 2017, 10:27 PM

Why Officers Get Saluted


"In monarchies, when the king or queen “requests” that you perform for them or “invites” you to attend an event, saying “no thanks” is not an option. Military officers are, by and large, only a step or two above trailer trash in terms of how aristocratic their roots and upbringing were. For example, my dad was born and raised on a West Virginia farm and was an alcoholic as an adult. My mom was the daughter of Hungarian and Irish immigrants who came to the U.S. in steerage. But Army officers, notwithstanding similar backgrounds, consider themselves royalty and expected to be treated as such.

It must have something to do with the fact that hundreds of thousands of members of the military have to salute them and call them “Sir” and the officer corps habit of treating enlisted men as if they were something like the untouchables caste in India. And don’t you love all their titles? I have been “mister” all my non-officer life. The richest man in America, Bill Gates, is also mister, but the U.S. Army sounds like the House of Lords with everyone from privates to generals having a title.

Several hundred years ago, the officers truly were royalty and the enlisted men were the dregs of society. That’s how all this saluting and “sir” and rank and titles got started. Why it’s still in use in the twenty-first century is a mystery to me. The New England Patriots, to pick one of many examples, do not have rank and saluting and all that and they seem to manage without it."

https://johntreed.com/blogs/john-t-reed-s-blog-about-military-matters/61101059-officially-voluntary-but-unofficially-mandatory-ovum-stuff-in-the-army


As a dedicated lifelong civilian, I find this positively fascinating!



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wonderwarthog Mar 2017 OP
brewens1 Mar 2017 #1
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JaimeBondoJr Mar 2017 #2
wonderwarthog Mar 2017 #7
rampartb Mar 2017 #3
Konservative Mar 2017 #5
wonderwarthog Mar 2017 #9
Konservative Mar 2017 #4
wonderwarthog Mar 2017 #6

Response to wonderwarthog (Original post)

Sat Mar 18, 2017, 11:56 PM

1. I never say "sir". I wasn't raised to be a peasant. "I don't say sir and I don't say

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ma'am, and if you ain't into that, you can kiss my ass!" My name is good enough for me, I really don't give a shit if you think you are entitled to a title.

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Response to brewens1 (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 19, 2017, 10:14 AM

8. I am working

On a title for myself.

And I will demand to be addressed ny it on this board.


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Response to wonderwarthog (Original post)

Sun Mar 19, 2017, 12:12 AM

2. I stopped reading when he used the New England Patriots as a reason not to have to salute.

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Response to JaimeBondoJr (Reply #2)

Sun Mar 19, 2017, 10:13 AM

7. I forced myself

Past that point as well.

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Response to wonderwarthog (Original post)

Sun Mar 19, 2017, 04:20 AM

3. i was commissioned after my graduation in an rotc unit

the unit's petty officers and ncos were waiting to salute me because i had to pay each one a dollar for the privilege. tradition ...

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Response to rampartb (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 19, 2017, 07:40 AM

5. Please tell me you never stopped anyone for not saluting your car...

 

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Response to rampartb (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 19, 2017, 10:17 AM

9. I do understand

The reasons and necessity of military protocol.

The article is funny and also makes valid criticisms, imo.

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Response to wonderwarthog (Original post)

Sun Mar 19, 2017, 07:39 AM

4. All the 'sirs', 'salutes' and other b.s. was absolutely necessary.

 

Officers had to be basically 'Untouchables' in order to maintain proper military discipline. Still, I absolutely DESPISED having to salute a car simply because it had an officer sticker. Sometimes you simply be saluting a family member.

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Response to Konservative (Reply #4)

Sun Mar 19, 2017, 10:12 AM

6. I totally get it.

Discipline and tradition.

The article is largely tongue in cheek, a great story, and is hilarious and also 100% true.

It is worth a read.

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