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Tue Feb 12, 2019, 12:51 AM

I'm looking at the Ruger precision rifle in the .308 or the 6.5, which shall it be?

I'm a fan of the 7MM08 and the 280AI and have customized many of them. This will be my first R P R but I love long distance accuracy and have to give this platform a try.

So give me your thoughts.

I'm also a leupold fan and plan on spending more for the glass on top as I do for the rifle.

I have my own range and am an avid reloader so I can build the loads to gain the accuracy I want.

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Response to oldenuff35 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 01:06 AM

1. Personally, I'd stick with the tried and true and go .308W

Ive heard good things about the rifle out of the box but haven't had a change to get hands on one.
I wish they would offer more chamberings... I've been itchin to get a .22 Hornet since I haven't had one for a long time and this would be a neat platform for it.

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Response to MumblyPeg (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 01:27 AM

2. I've got a few .308's and they shoot well I'm trying out a new platform to see if it is all they say

I know me. I get bored with any gun after I get it like I want it.

I've been playing with a new single action lately. A 327 federal mag in the Ruger single six. It has a mile of barrel and sure turns skunks inside out in a hurry.

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Response to oldenuff35 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 01:34 AM

3. I built a Savage 110 Tactical w/ bull barrel in the .308 cartridge.

I did my homework on the most accurate round and found the .308 taking top honors for accuracy out to 700 ~ 800 meters. In particular the 168 grain Federal Premium Sierra Match King Gold Medal.

I fitted it with a Luepold M1 scope with 3/4 mil dot with .308 BDC turret that came with 3 other BDC turrets in other calibers.

Tossed the original stock and got a Choates sniper stock that had an adjustable elevation and that combined with a Harris swivel bipod w/ extending legs allowed me to consistently shoot sub 1/4 MOA.

The only issue I had was with the stock trigger. There were no after market upgrades, like a two stage, so I did the next best thing and polished the sear and catch surfaces followed up w/ silicone oil and adjusting the trigger pull to ~ 4lbs.

I could easily shoot 3 round groups in the space of a nickel at 100 yds.

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Response to It Guy (Reply #3)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 02:23 AM

4. I have two 308's built on Remington 700 actions. There are a ton of aftermarket parts for them.

My triggers I like at 2 ri 2.5 lbs. I want then crisp, to break clean and with very little travel. I shoot long range comp and I want them to go off when I think about squeezing the trigger. The triggertech diamond set at two pounds is damn hard to beat but they are pricey.

When I build up a rifle if it won't shoot 5 shots over ten minutes into a half inch group, center to center, at a hundred yards, then it will never make a 1K rifle. After breaking in the barrel I always put the rifle into a machine rest so I can see what the Rifle can do when the shooter, me, is taken out of the picture.

I spend months working with different loads/powders/primers and bullets to find out what that rifle likes. I've even weighed the water from cases to find case capacity. Everything is as uniform as I can make it. Even within the same run of bullets the weights will differ slightly.


I usually glass bed and pillar bed the stocks and make sure they fit me as well. On any of the mags or 30 cal and up I will screw a vais brake on the front end too.

If you are not naturally very ocd don't get into the 1K game.

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Response to oldenuff35 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 11:01 AM

5. You can never go wrong with .308.

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Response to oldenuff35 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 11:30 AM

6. I have decided that my future firearms are going to be based on the easy to find common calibers

9 mm sidearms / 357 revolver
30 and .22 caliber rifles

12 gauge shotgun

I would get the 308, but you have more things at your disposal to use.

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Response to Social_Justice (Reply #6)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 03:08 PM

7. I'm a college trained gun smith who now does it as a hobby.

Guns are my answer to extra money.

I gave my son an AR-10 last year to hunt with chambered in 7MM08. He has harvested half a dozen deer with it in three different states and loves it. It has very little recoil, is almost as accurate as my long range rifles and the aftermarket trigger is fantastic.

That rifle will shoot, off the bench, three quarter inch groups at 100 yards all day long with rem corelocks.
Federal ammo opens up to around an inch and nosler ammo is about the same. I quit trying to build loads for it that will out shoot the off the shelf ammo. He doesn't need it.

He put some expensive mil-dot glass on top but I don't remember what he bought.

He has several of my rifles but this is the only one he pulls out of the safe now.

I will add that he is the one who got me interested in the Ruger Precision Rifle and the 6.5 round.

To everyone who suggested staying with the 308, thanks, I just made the decision to do exactly that.

When I get it like I want it I'll post some pics.

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #7)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 07:28 PM

8. I am shooting 6.5CM and love it. Super flat shooting and a tack driver

This AM I got 1/4 MOA group at 300 yards from the bench. My usual expectation is 1/2 MOA. Only caliber I reload for. Current rifle is a Savage. I use Athlon glass. It is also soft shooting compared to 300 WinMag and 338 Lapua which I also have.

The RPR is a good rifle, lots of support as well, there are others. Any chassis set up seems to work well. I have been surprised at how well my Savage does.

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Response to His Daughter (Reply #8)

Wed Feb 13, 2019, 12:22 AM

10. Savage makes a good rifle, no doubt about that. They make one of the best stock triggers out there.

I build on the Rem 700 actions because I have been for 25 years and know the tricks for that action. The other reasons is that there are a bunch of them out there that I can pick up cheap and part out and there are a ton of aftermarket parts for them.

Flat shooting is a relative term, a 7mm STW shoots flat but will burn out the barrel throat very quickly. The 7 Rem mag will shoot flatter than the 6.5CM but comes with more recoil.

My favorite round for all around hunting is my Rem 280AI. It is built on the Mountain Rifle couture with a pricey stock and weighs in at 6.3lbs with a 23" ported barrel and a vais brake. Add another pound for the Leopold on top and it is a rifle I can pack around all day, that is easy on my shoulder, and have confidence in shooting out to 800 yards. It is loud and deadly accurate for the first few rounds. Then I have to let the thin barrel cool off for awhile. It is the first rifle I take out of my safe when headed out hunting. I learned long ago that I carry the damn thing a lot father than I shoot it.

Contrary to what some people believe the flattest shooting high FPS rifles/cartridges are not always the most accurate. Many years ago I bought 5K nosler CT's in 7MM. They are 170 gr bullets but Nosler doesn't even make them anymore. The trajectories are more looping than the 130/140/150 gr bullets out of my 280 but they retain energy and depart more terminal energy in and on the target at extended distances than the lighter bullets, and they are more accurate out of every 280AI I've ever built.

What I'm getting at is flat shooting and fast does not equal accurate. Repeated dependable trajectories are what is important. I've been looking at the 6.5 ballistics and ballistic coefficient, (BC is the one number I pay a lot of attention to). I've been reading what some people I respect very much are saying and writing about it. I believe them and you.

If I like the .308 on the RPR platform then I will find someone who wants it bad enough and get another one in 6.5, or just keep both of them.

One can never have too many guns.

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #10)

Wed Feb 13, 2019, 01:13 AM

11. I think Dad had to many...low triple digits

He was a collector of military bolt actions from multiple nations and the ammo to shoot them. I wonder if mom knew just how many he had.

In theater, you get what the Army gives you. It wasn't until I got home that I got some choices. I find the 6.5 CM to be magic. Accurate over varying ranges, easy to shoot, and affordable. The bullets are almost like needles, something I have had to get used to. Barrel life is an issue, and I may be looking at a new one for the Savage when accuracy drops off.

My shooting style is still tactical. If I can range a target and get on 12 inch steel on the first shot, I am a happy camper. Not truly Long Range Precision as the game is played today, but good enough for tactical work.

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Response to Social_Justice (Reply #6)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 07:30 PM

9. That is a fine approach for the working guns

We have our primary firearms in std calibers (9mm/223/308/44Mag/22LR) and believe in that approach for working guns. However for the specialty ones, going to something more unusual is fine. When it come to long range precision, 6.5 is a common caliber.

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