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Thu Mar 26, 2015, 05:29 AM

What Ever Happened To History Of Feminism??

Several months ago, Discussionist was abuzz with the anticipation of HoF arriving and basically taking over the site. One poster referred to them as "Our HoF overlords."

But that seems to have fizzled out. I can't remember the last time I saw HoF even mentioned. As I understood, they were going to gang-alert on every mysoginist on the site. And "every mysoginist" meant every male and some females.

But imperceptibly, with no fanfare, they have slowly drifted into oblivion.

So what happened?? Did they just go away?? Or did some incident and/or person convince them to move elsewhere??

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Reply What Ever Happened To History Of Feminism?? (Original post)
Bubba Mar 2015 OP
RATFINK_5.0 Mar 2015 #1
Jimmy Calhoun Mar 2015 #4
ol geezer Mar 2015 #7
Jimmy Calhoun Mar 2015 #27
New Deal Democrat Jul 2015 #40
Borscht May 2015 #39
sungauge Mar 2015 #8
Jimmy Calhoun Mar 2015 #2
Daves Not Here Man Mar 2015 #3
Carlos_Danger Mar 2015 #5
Daves Not Here Man Mar 2015 #9
Slayer Mar 2015 #6
Attera Mar 2015 #17
Slayer Mar 2015 #18
Attera Mar 2015 #20
Slayer Mar 2015 #21
Qukid Mar 2015 #23
Qukid Mar 2015 #22
Slayer Mar 2015 #24
Qukid Mar 2015 #25
Slayer Mar 2015 #26
Silent But Deadly Apr 2015 #29
Slayer Apr 2015 #30
Qukid Apr 2015 #31
Silent But Deadly Apr 2015 #34
Slayer Apr 2015 #36
Qukid Apr 2015 #37
Slayer Apr 2015 #38
Silent But Deadly Apr 2015 #33
Slayer Apr 2015 #35
Zimm_Man_Fan Mar 2015 #10
Attera Mar 2015 #11
Zimm_Man_Fan Mar 2015 #12
MountainDew Mar 2015 #13
Attera Mar 2015 #15
MountainDew Mar 2015 #16
Slayer Mar 2015 #19
Qukid Mar 2015 #14
Jimmy Calhoun Mar 2015 #28
Qukid Apr 2015 #32

Response to Bubba (Original post)

Thu Mar 26, 2015, 05:42 AM

1. OK, got me again _ what, who, where is HoF ?

HOUSE OF FANCAKES ?

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Response to RATFINK_5.0 (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 26, 2015, 06:08 AM

4. History of Feminism. A small, harmless group of DU posters concerned with women's rights.

Yet according to certain folks, they're like the DU version of the Illuminati or something.

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Response to Jimmy Calhoun (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 26, 2015, 08:54 AM

7. The HoF is far from harmless on DU.

The HoF are a man hating, bullying, self-righteous group of mal-contents that will swarm anyone on DU they don't like, using lies, on purpose misunderstandings, misquotes, swarm alerting until they get their target on a forced vacation or even banned. They are responsible for getting many good long term DU'ers banned, many that had few or no hides in years.
They will also swarm the DU admin with their lies against whomever, to get good members banned because the target posted something they did not like. Why the DU admin put up with their obvious bull shit and serial TOS violations is a mystery to most people.
The HoF are also the DU's self-appointed word police, with an ever changing secret list of banned words, often with their own made up definitions.
They call themselves feminist, but that is just a cover. They are no more feminist than any anti-woman Republican congress critter. They give woman a bad name, let alone any real feminist.

They tried to take over DI a couple of times, but thanks to the ..., hmmm, 'conservitives' here, they were beaten back. DI is not DU.
Between the Obamabots, Hillarybots, gunners and HoF, the Hof are the ones that have done the most to destroy what DU once was. A safe haven for Democrats and Liberals to get together and exchange ideas.

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #7)

Sun Mar 29, 2015, 09:12 PM

27. Again, I think you're ascribing way too much power to a small group of posters.

And "secret list of banned words"? Is it really so hard to refrain from calling women bitches, whores, etc. on DU? I know there's plenty of language I use IRL that I wouldn't on DU, because I don't consider it appropriate for that particular forum.

There may be some truth in what you say, but your take seems extremely one-sided IMO. If nothing else, the HoF'ers certainly get as good as they give.

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Response to Jimmy Calhoun (Reply #27)

Tue Jul 7, 2015, 10:35 AM

40. Do you know why the HoF Group was formed?

It has nothing to do with history. It was formed to accommodate a group of feminists who are so radical they couldn't get along with the others in the existing Feminism Group. Their hate is real and it is condoned at DU. They are a major part of the reason I quit posting there.

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #7)

Wed May 13, 2015, 10:35 AM

39. No, they are not what you describe.

Most are good people but in any group there may be some wingnuts. HoF has a couple doosies in the nuttery department but that is because of those particular people's character make up, not because they are feminists or belong to the History of Feminism.

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Response to RATFINK_5.0 (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 26, 2015, 10:42 AM

8. A bunch of gals with a severe case of penis envy

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Response to Bubba (Original post)

Thu Mar 26, 2015, 06:07 AM

2. Maybe some folks overestimated their power and influence to begin with?



And I've never been called a misogynist on DU, despite this supposed epidemic of false accusations.

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Response to Bubba (Original post)

Thu Mar 26, 2015, 06:07 AM

3. DU is thataway------>

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Response to Daves Not Here Man (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 26, 2015, 06:53 AM

5. I thought it was over there <---------------

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Response to Carlos_Danger (Reply #5)

Thu Mar 26, 2015, 02:05 PM

9. lol, yea. To the left. Good call.

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Response to Bubba (Original post)

Thu Mar 26, 2015, 07:59 AM

6. Their coup was put down.

 

They are now back to posting in a protected forum that no one reads. Well unless one is looking for humor. No shortage of that. Besides they have a few of their own (that they ate) that reside here that kinda keep them occupied if they show their faces here.

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Response to Slayer (Reply #6)

Fri Mar 27, 2015, 07:55 AM

17. They were recently having a blast grave dancing on a DUer's tombstone

 

I think they made at least 3 new OPs about that. Couldn't help themselves. Lol
Otherwise, they're pretty invisible.

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Response to Attera (Reply #17)

Fri Mar 27, 2015, 08:49 AM

18. Yeah I saw that. Bereft of any power, they only have grave dancing left.

 

You know what always amazed me about hof? For people who seem to be so caught up in definitions and labels, they post very, very few posts about the history of feminism in that group. Then again, if I heard correctly, somebodies wife is either a member or close friends with one of them so they get a lot more privilege than your average du'er, you know the poor saps who better tow the line or else.

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Response to Slayer (Reply #18)

Fri Mar 27, 2015, 09:10 AM

20. Ahhhhh I see.. I was completely unaware of that

 

But if true, it does explain many things.

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Response to Attera (Reply #20)

Fri Mar 27, 2015, 09:14 AM

21. I had the same reaction when I came across that tidbit.

 

It explained a a lot of things that I couldn't never seem to square.

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Response to Slayer (Reply #21)

Fri Mar 27, 2015, 09:19 AM

23. Like what?

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Response to Attera (Reply #20)

Fri Mar 27, 2015, 09:18 AM

22. What does it explain?

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Response to Qukid (Reply #22)

Fri Mar 27, 2015, 09:30 AM

24. Why some members have a very wide birth, and others

 

Get the ban hammer for far less. One example might be, oh one member being allowed to have a sock puppet or three? And the other 99.999999999999% of the members being banned for even insinuating they have done such a thing. Things like that.

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Response to Slayer (Reply #24)

Fri Mar 27, 2015, 09:52 AM

25. One confirmed.

That was a head scratcher, but it was before the automatic banning for socks that were created to get around account restrictions. I don't know who these 99.999999999999% are. People who create socks to get around suspensions get banned at both sites.
Look, I have no desire to defend hof, I just don't see the point in trying to get them riled up. I don't see them getting special treatment, either. Everyone seems to think the people they don't like get special treatment. In hof's case, it's well documented.

Also, when referring to hof, I'm only talking about a handful or two of members of that group(and a few white knights). Most of the members never, or rarely, participated in the shit flinging.

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Response to Qukid (Reply #25)

Fri Mar 27, 2015, 12:13 PM

26. Well I guess it comes down to what's the definition of

 

Well documented. Sounds like you are tring to say, yeah they are crazy and disruptive and everyone with half a brain knows this, but not really coming out and saying it.

They came here and tried to set up shop early on. They were dominating the culture section until they met their match, the gun posters..... As far as I know they don't really come around here much, and when they do, they are relegated to the lol colum...

This place doesn't have groups and thank Naveed for that!

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Response to Slayer (Reply #18)

Tue Apr 7, 2015, 12:40 AM

29. Are you saying they're friends with an admin/admin's spouse? Because no one else has

the banhammer power.

That would be disappointing if they were applying justice unequally. I'm going to be skeptical on that charge.

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Response to Silent But Deadly (Reply #29)

Tue Apr 7, 2015, 08:18 AM

30. That is the word I have been given.

 

Take it for what it is worth. I don't know any of them personally so I can't be 100 percent certain, but it sat well when I heard it.

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Response to Slayer (Reply #30)

Tue Apr 7, 2015, 08:35 AM

31. LOL. Info from the cave?

Always spot on and reliable.

They're after backwoodsbob, now, though.

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Response to Qukid (Reply #31)

Tue Apr 7, 2015, 01:50 PM

34. Do they run around targeting people?

And they're making fun of those people in the HOF?

I'll acknowledge that a small minority of the HoF members can be accusatory assholes while also noting that it's really strange for people to be criticizing them while simultaneously doing the exact same kind of alert-stalking shit that the small minority does.

What did "backwoodsbob" ever do? And did he do it to the cave people, or the hof?

Hard to know the players without a scorecard.

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Response to Qukid (Reply #31)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 07:12 AM

36. I have found that the

 

Intel uncovered by their moles is usually highly accurate. I can't think of any other reason the banshees are allowed to (almost single handedly) destroy a once decent website. Any ideas from you why anyone would? Makes no sense from a business stand point to me.

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Response to Slayer (Reply #36)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 08:45 AM

37. Gullibility is the problem.

Yours.

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Response to Qukid (Reply #37)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 09:44 AM

38. I must admit, I have been quite gullible at times.

 

As I have grown and become wiser. I am finding I tend to agree with information that makes sense, rather than information that confirms my personal bias, regardless of the source. This also requires admitting it, when I am wrong. Egg on the face washes off, and egos repair themselves.

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Response to Slayer (Reply #30)

Tue Apr 7, 2015, 01:44 PM

33. I think your source is making stuff up. I don't see the admins risking their business model

over some supposed friend of a spouse. It just doesn't ring true to me.

It sounds like one of those conspiracy theories where the facts are bent to fit the situation and the deepest desires of the listener.

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Response to Silent But Deadly (Reply #33)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 07:07 AM

35. How do you explain

 

The will Pitt saga then? Or the fact that they have been allowed sock puppets? I'm not sure that running an asylum for misfit toys is what I would call a business model, but that's just me.

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Response to Bubba (Original post)

Thu Mar 26, 2015, 03:25 PM

10. One of their most intellectually dishonest and obnoxious voices is about

to come off of a DI timeout in the next couple of days. I guarantee you that we will all see more posted HoF-manure than we'll know what to do with when that happens. Bank it.

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Response to Zimm_Man_Fan (Reply #10)

Thu Mar 26, 2015, 04:19 PM

11. Hmmm who is on time out from HoF?

 

I can only think of iverglas, but she's not on DU anymore

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Response to Attera (Reply #11)

Thu Mar 26, 2015, 04:25 PM

12. Sorry, you're right: I wasn't entirely clear. I should have said "*former* HoF voice,

now posting furiously on DI - when she's not on one of her many well-earned timeouts, that is."



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Response to Attera (Reply #11)

Thu Mar 26, 2015, 06:49 PM

13. Please don't say the

 

name three times or we're all doomed!!

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Response to MountainDew (Reply #13)

Thu Mar 26, 2015, 09:15 PM

15. Here i go:

 

Iverglas! Iverglas! Iv..e..r.....

(To be continued)

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Response to Attera (Reply #15)

Thu Mar 26, 2015, 10:22 PM

16. That was close

 

I was getting ready to remove all of the mirrors in the house.

Have a good night!!

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Response to Bubba (Original post)

Thu Mar 26, 2015, 08:46 PM

14. HOF is just another group on DU anymore

At least, for the most part. The shit-stirring ring leaders have either left, or stopped stirring shit. I say we leave them alone.

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Response to Qukid (Reply #14)

Sun Mar 29, 2015, 09:16 PM

28. I pretty much agree with your assessment.

And although I will say I sympathized, and even agreed, frequently with redqueen, she was ultimately too combative and my-way-or-the-highway for a forum as (relatively) diverse in its views as DU is.

Ultimately, though, it's the issues that are important, not the individual posters. And the HoF members have raised many valid points IMO.

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Response to Jimmy Calhoun (Reply #28)

Tue Apr 7, 2015, 08:37 AM

32. They're back...

TA is leading the charge.

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