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Why do we fight over political sourcing?

When someone adds a link to a story, I always read it. I believe it's the least I can do in an attempt to have an honest debate. However, I've seen many here at Discussionist reject them out of hand with a line like:

Moonie times

Mother Jones

What exactly is the purpose of that? I look at it as nothing more than flame bait. So, with that said, let's look at two examples from those same sources.

From Mother Jones:
Here's How Obama Wants to Spend $3.7 Billion on the Child Migrant Crisis

On Tuesday, President Obama asked Congress for $3.7 billion in emergency supplemental appropriations to address the rapidly growing number of unaccompanied Central American children attempting to enter the United States. The Border Patrol apprehended 38,833 unaccompanied kids in fiscal year 2013, and it already has caught more than 52,000 in fiscal 2014.

The requested appropriations include:

$1.8 billion to the HHS's Administration for Children and Families: to provide more stable, cost-effective arrangements and medical care for unaccompanied children.
$1.1 billion to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE): for the detention, prosecution, and removal of undocumented families, as well as transportation costs for unaccompanied children ...

... Notably, Obama's letter to House Speaker John Boehner did not include a request to alter the Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act (TVPRA) of 2008. That law requires the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to turn over unaccompanied children from countries other than Canada and Mexico to the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), which temporarily houses them in shelters while it locates US-based family members or sponsors. (The kids are in removal proceedings throughout.)

From The Washington Times:
Obama wants $3.7 billion more to tend to illegals

Federal officials last week paid $584 to buy four versions of Monopoly, five packs of playing cards, a dozen beanbag tosses and other games for illegal immigrant children — a small fraction of what the Obama administration now says it will take to clothe, feed, transport, house and, yes, entertain the children surging across the border.

Government contractors stand to see a good payday after President Obama submitted a request Tuesday for an additional $3.7 billion this year to cover the costs of handling the illegal immigrant families and, most costly, the unaccompanied children from Central America who are entering the U.S. in record numbers ...

... Mr. Obama sent a letter to Congress detailing a request for 2014 alone: $879 million in additional funding to detain and deport illegal immigrant families, $116 million to transport unaccompanied children, and $522 million for more law enforcement both on the border and in Central America.

Mr. Obama also is asking for an additional $1.8 billion for the Health and Human Services Department to be able to house the children while they are awaiting immigration court hearings; $300 million for the State Department try to create better economic and security conditions in Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador; and $64 million for the Justice Department to hire more immigration judges.

You may not like the political content of the papers involved, and you may not agree with the editorializing, but the numbers (the facts) are the same. So, the next time someone includes a link to a post, try to put your prejudices aside for a minute and do something important ... read it.

Wendy Davis to President "Visit the Border"

AUSTIN, Texas — Pressure on President Barack Obama to visit the Texas border is now coming from the state's most prominent Democrat, Wendy Davis, who on Thursday echoed Republicans urging him to see firsthand the crisis of thousands of young migrants entering the U.S.

Davis, the Democratic nominee for Texas governor whose campaign has garnered nationwide support, stopped short of criticizing Obama but expressed hope he would make time.

"It's one thing to hear the number. It's another thing to see for yourself the people — thousands — who are coming across," she said.

... The White House has insisted there was little the president could learn from a border visit that he didn't already know. Republican Texas Gov. Rick Perry, one of Obama's harshest critics, met with the president in Dallas on Wednesday and put a border visit on a list of requests to Obama.

U.S. Rep. Henry Cuellar, a Texas Democrat, has also criticized Obama for skipping the border.

UNLV students balk at Hillary Clinton talk fee

By KATIE GLUECK | 6/27/14 1:07 PM EDT Updated: 6/27/14 3:11 PM EDT

Student leaders at the University of Nevada-Las Vegas are pushing back on a decision to pay Hillary Clinton $225,000 to speak at a school foundation fundraiser, and the GOP is seizing on the rumblings to bolster its criticism that Clinton is out of touch.

In an interview with respected Nevada political journalist Jon Ralston this week, student body President Elias Benjelloun said the potential 2016 presidential contender should donate some or all of her fee to the university.

“Our student government asks that Hillary Clinton returns part or all of the money back to students, back to the university,” said Benjelloun, who noted that he likes Clinton. “We’ve been seeing increases in tuition, we’ve been asking students and families to come back to the table, and it’s time for private entities to come to the table as well.”

Report: Mexican Military Chopper Crosses Into US, Shoots At Border Agents

TUCSON, Ariz. (CBS Las Vegas) — Border Patrol agents in Arizona were reportedly fired upon by a Mexican military helicopter that traveled across the border.

KVOA-TV reports that Mexican authorities were conducting a drug interdiction operation when the incident happened early Thursday morning on the Tohono O’odham Indian Nation. The Mexican chopper fired at the agents and then flew back into Mexico.

Art del Cueto, Border Patrol Tucson Sector union president, tells KVOA that they called and apologized for the incident.

“The incident occurred after midnight and before 6 a.m. Helicopter flew into the U.S. and fired on two U.S. Border Patrol agents,” del Cueto said in a statement to KVOA. “The incident occurred west of the San Miguel Gate on the Tohono O’odham Indian Nation. The agents were unharmed. The helicopter went back into Mexico. Mexico then contacted U.S. authorities and apologized for the incident.”

Andy Adame, Border Patrol spokesperson, said that Mexican authorities fired two shots at the border agents.

“Two shots were fired from the helicopter but no injuries or damage to U.S. property were reported,” Adame told KVOA.

The incident is under investigation.

Stephanie L. Kwolek, Inventor of Kevlar, Is Dead at 90

Thanks Ms. Kwolek. You saved untold lives with your invention. May you rest in peace.

Stephanie L. Kwolek, a DuPont chemist who invented the technology behind Kevlar, a virtually bulletproof fiber that has saved thousands of lives, died on Wednesday in Wilmington, Del. She was 90.

The chief executive of DuPont, Ellen Kullman, announced the death, calling Ms. Kwolek, who spent 15 years in the laboratory without a promotion before her breakthrough, “a true pioneer for women in science.”

Kevlar is probably best known for use in body armor, particularly bulletproof vests. A DuPont spokeswoman estimated that since the 1970s, 3,000 police officers have been saved from bullet wounds through the use of equipment reinforced with Kevlar, which is far stronger and lighter than steel.

What is the problem with trying to locate kidnapped kids?

It seems to me that Abbas is doing the right and humane thing. Is it just pure hatred that drives groups like Hamas and Hezbollah?

Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas’ condemnation of the kidnapping of three Israeli teenagers in Judea and Samaria and his subsequent pledge to assist Israel in locating them has made him the object of scorn from Palestinians on social media who have accused him of “collaborating” with the sworn enemy, Israel.

Palestinians posted cartoons on Facebook and Twitter showing depicting Abbas as a “puppy” of Israel. Another cartoon that is making the rounds online shows Abbas dressed as a settler, with a Jewish skullcap and a rifle.
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