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DP46

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How long until the "No Fly - No Buy" list becomes fascist again?

I've been watching to see how soon the left discovers that the "No Fly" list with no due process or recourse has suddenly become a fascist plot again.

When Bush/Cheney started it they all hated it and demanded the list be opened up. The ACLU and the NRA are both big fans of either dropping the super secret list, or at minimum making due process and open appeals a part of it.

Then, for the last 6+ or so years or so, it's been a great idea for the left ... as long as it stops anyone from ever buying a gun, due process be damned. Multiple DU threads extolled the virtues of expanding the list and making sure no one on the list, for any reason should be able to ever buy a gun.

Pelosi, Schumer and others all made nice and rambling speeches about how the NRA just wanted to sell guns to terrorists.

Now, Trump has that secret list they loved so much.

So, when will we see the flip flop that makes that list dangerous and unconstitutional again? Should we start a pool? Or just wait and laugh at the hypocrisy?

Chicago loses 2 more gun cases in court

"7th Circuit strikes ban on target practice by minors, and near-ban on firing ranges"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/01/19/7th-circuit-strikes-ban-on-target-practice-by-minors-and-near-ban-on-firing-ranges/

So, Rahm and all the Dems in the Chicago City Council will be writing more big 6 or 7 figure checks to the SAF, ISRA and NRA thanks to the decision in Ezel II. Sooner or later the voters may get tired of pissing away tax money through contributions to the NRA and SAF legal fund.

A unanimous decision by the three judge panel held that:
1. Chicago may not prohibit all persons under 18 from entering licensed firing ranges.
2. Chicago may not constrict firing ranges to a tiny sliver of the city.

The 2010 Supreme Court case McDonald v. City of Chicago held that Chicago’s handgun ban violated the Second and 14th amendments. In McDonald, as in the Ezell cases, Alan Gura and David Sigale represented the plaintiffs. ($3.2 million in legal fees to SAF and the NRA ... so far)

After McDonald, the Chicago City Council enacted a gun licensing ordinance. One of the license requirements was safety training at a gun range. Yet the City Council banned firearms ranges that were open to the public. The city already had 11 firing ranges, but only for government employees and security guards.

In the first Ezell case, the 7th Circuit held that Chicago could not prohibit firearms ranges. In response, the city enacted a licensing law for firearms ranges. Licensees had to comply with many safety conditions, such as proper ventilation, noise controls and appropriate disposal of lead fragments.

(The zoning requirement of "banning gun ranges within 100 feet of another range or within 500 feet of a residential district, school, place of worship, and multiple other uses.” So basically that meant there was not one place in the city that qualified. As the chief judge said; "Chicago is trying to be too cute by half" and slammed them with a loss and plaintiff legal costs.)

Because the restrictions affect Second Amendment rights, the court also applied “heightened scrutiny,” as in other cases involving fundamental rights.

As of noon tomorrow, I'm betting we're going to start seeing a lot more "strict" and "heightened scrutiny" review of any case involving the 2nd.


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