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Response to Charlie Mike (Original post)

Thu Apr 18, 2019, 12:55 PM

15. There are a couple issues to address

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First should a kid be allowed to use violence to protect themselves, absolutely yes. Anyone claiming otherwise is out of their mind. Now that doesn't mean violence should be anyone's default, there's an escalation process. These absolute rules to the contrary have no basis in reality.

With that said, the problem with the example given is that it presumes a threat but doesn't provide support for that presumption. Maybe there was a threat maybe there wasn't, however those boys making her uncomfortable by simple presence or her assuming they wouldn't let her leave are not themselves threats. Now if she tried to leave and let's say they pushed her back or simply closed the door and held it shut then there's a threat and her reaction would be justified.

Unless they were trying to force her in their protest picture then it wouldn't make sense for them to harass her so it may be that she was mad they were there and took action likely including an argument on the issue, or she felt intimidated by their numbers and decide to strike preemptively. The point is the details on how that went down greatly impact justification and those details were left out of the story.

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