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Response to Trevor (Reply #125)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 10:56 PM

132. Have you ever been trained in handling classified materials?

They're pretty clear on what the rules are, and you have to sign off saying you understand those rules. If you're not sure how to proceed in some situation, there are people you have to consult. If Clinton had received classified material, that in and of itself doesn't necessarily mean she committed a crime, provided she reports the breach so the problem can be addressed and avoided in the future. If she had a situation where things were time sensitive, there may also be exceptions for that, but neither is the case for Clinton. She set up a system where "classified" didn't mean anything and all material was handled the same way. Her "excuse" was that she didn't know how to recognize classified material, but if she had her training, she would have signed a form stating that she did know how to recognize it. Searching for a year for an email that was so obviously classified? That's not how classified markings work at all. It's not subjective. Something is either marked classified, or it isn't.

And your case is related to handing material over to isn't addressing the issue at all.
1. In order to constitute the crimes denounced by §§ 1(b) and 2 of the Espionage Act -- the obtaining of documents connected with or relating to the national defense and their delivery to an agent of a foreign country with an intent, or reason to believe, in each case, that they are to be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of a foreign nation -- it is not necessary that the documents contain information concerning the places or things (such as vessels, aircraft, forts, signal stations, codes or signal books) which are specifically mentioned in § 1(a) of the Act. P. 312 U. S. 25.

I don't think anyone accused Clinton espionage, which is what THIS law addresses.

This is the one you want. Note the word "intent" appears nowhere in it.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/46/503.59

I accept the findings on Hillary. She sent and received classified material and failed to turn over all her work related emails. Those are the findings, the facts, and they are not in dispute.

If people can argue over the conclusions that Mueller draws, shouldn't people be able to argue over the conclusions Comey draws?

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